9 Feb
2017
9 Feb
'17
12:27 p.m.
That's your opinion. Mine is that naming a directory by an arbitrary hostname is beyond stupid to use your words (which are unnecessarily insulting). The device ID does not change as long as the device - whatever it is called - exists. The hostname can change during lifetime for various reasons, the ID will never change.
But I don't want to discuss about this any further with you. You made your point in your unfriendly way and the case is closed.
Jeff.
Am 09.02.2017 um 03:45 schrieb Adam Armstrong:
Naming device directories by an arbitrary database id is beyond stupid.
I literally don't even.
Adam.
Sent from BlueMail http://www.bluemail.me/r On 9 Feb 2017, at 01:48, Jeff Meyers <Jeff.Meyers@gmx.net mailto:Jeff.Meyers@gmx.net> wrote:
So you keep all RRD data when a device is deleted to re-use them when a device with the same hostname is re-added..? Am 09.02.2017 um 00:30 schrieb Adam Armstrong: Delete device Re add device Realise why your suggestion is the most annoying thing on earth. Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 8 Feb 2017, at 23:23, Jeff Meyers <Jeff.Meyers@gmx.net <mailto:Jeff.Meyers@gmx.net>> wrote: Hi Adam, since this bothered me more than once: why don't you just use e.g. device_49 as the folder name instead of the device' hostname? This would make renaming in the panel possible since folder names are not connected anymore to the hostname. Jeff Am 08.02.2017 um 22:20 schrieb Adam Armstrong: There's a CLI script which will rename hosts. Needs to be done on CLI to rename the rrd directory. Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 8 Feb 2017, at 21:14, Philippe Laurent <pbl@ideos.com <mailto:pbl@ideos.com>> wrote: Can the IP addresses be changed to resolvable names, or is the strategy to nuke the entry and start over? I've made the same bonehead move for several entries. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman@gmail.com <mailto:danletkeman@gmail.com>> wrote: I guess its too late, because I already added them and made the excuses. Now I have something to fix. :) On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: Don't add things by IP address. Don't make nonsense excuses either. If you have to, use /etc/hosts. Putting ip addresses into observium is inexcusable in virtually all instances. Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 8 Feb 2017, at 20:05, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman@gmail.com <mailto:danletkeman@gmail.com>> wrote: "Devices are identified by hostname" ^^^^ Thats the problem. There is none. I'm looking for an alternative way to identify the device in observium because they are added by IP address. For many, many reasons we don't use DNS on these devices, which I really don't want to get into. But it looks like that will be the only option at this point. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: You are trying to solve a problem which doesn't exist. Devices are identified by hostname. sysName is just an ancillary piece of information which is used for dupe detection and auto detection. It's not useful for humans, really. Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 8 Feb 2017, at 19:21, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman@gmail.com <mailto:danletkeman@gmail.com>> wrote: Because SNMP on these devices is unable to get any identifiable name such as Device Name, System Name or Host Name. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: Why would you want to? Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 8 Feb 2017, at 18:50, Dan Letkeman <danletkeman@gmail.com <mailto:danletkeman@gmail.com>> wrote: We have many Ricoh printers and copiers. Because SNMP is horrible on these devices I am unable to set the System Name (sysName). 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