The funny thing is, you can actually add by IP, you just have to trick the system in to resolving IPs! :D

Adam

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On May 9, 2016, at 18:26, Spencer Ryan <sryan@arbor.net> wrote:
10 minutes, one script to add all the names to /etc/hosts

You've spent more time explaining why you don't want to do it than you could have just doing it.


Spencer Ryan | Senior Systems Administrator |  sryan@arbor.net
Arbor Networks
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On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Claudionei Mendes <claudionei.mendes@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it's my personal option. It's a use case that many Service Providers as us, have. 

You have two Scenarios that are not that simple as it looks.

We have important devices. Ok. We need host names, but and for temporary devices, as an CPE. 

Can you imagine the work you are giving to us? Or to any ISP that cares about the customer?

It's impossible that only us, as ISP serve temporary events. Don't you think?

In my opinion, and it's not hard to implement, you should think in this scenarios. It won't cost nothing to have both options, IP and Host name.

Every monitoring system you search, won't have this limitation.

Adam. It's not my problem. It's what you said. It's a different scenario that is not implemented in the system. 

Can't you see how many people are complaining about this issue?

Observium is a great software as I could see until now.  Congratulations,

But, please, think about this situation. In three days there are three people having this difficult . How many people, do you think, simply have given up thinking it's a bug on the software, just because, sometimes it add devices by IP and sometimes it cannot solve the host name ?

Many customers do not complain, they simply turn around and go away.
Does that complain, it's because really like your work, and wants it better.




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Date: Mon, 09 May 2016 17:46:01 +0100
From: Adam Armstrong < adama@memetic.org>
To: Observium Network Observation System < observium@observium.org>
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You're trying very hard to come up with scenarios that people have already given you solutions for.

Observium's target market is primarily service providers and enterprise with large networks.

Many of our SP customers like the features we have which enforce good operational practice.

If Observium works for you and you're not in that segment, that's fine.

However, we can't and won't compromise SP-centric design decisions because users outside of our target market don't like them.

Write a script which takes an Ip, puts a dummy entry in to /etc/hosts and adds the dummy entry. 5 seconds, done.

It's you who need to solve the problem of your unusual use case, not us who need to accommodate it.

There is actually a way to trick Observium in to allowing you to add by IP. I use it for temporary devices, and it most definitely involves DNS. ;)

Adam.

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On May 9, 2016, 17:37, at 17:37, Claudionei Mendes < claudionei.mendes@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hello Everybody,
>
>I would like to give an example, and I want, mainly the developers of
>observium to think well on this situation.
>
>We often serve temporary events arround, and we need to add this
>devices
>for monitoring in somewhere.
>
>Now imagine, every weekend, add to host files, IP address to temporary
>devices. Ok, use always the same IP. Right.
>
>In one event we use 5 devices, in another 8.
>
>And what if we have 2 or more events at the same time?
>
>What if my DNS server, that is a monitored server as well fails?
>
>All my monitoring will stop?
>
>IP address is faster and more reliable than Hostnames.
>
>I would like you to think about adding devices just by hostname. We
>have
>3000 devices on the network that we would like to add. But none of them
>need registered hostname. For this we have SNMP. They are end devices.
>They
>need to be monitored to order history and reports, but do not need DNS
>Names.
>
>Important devices have the hostname on the DNS, but any monitoring
>services
>we used before, we added the devices by hostname. IP is faster.
>
>
>
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>>
>> Hi,
>> I want to add the host , and Oservium said Could not resolve
>10.30.1.1
>> I check fping & snmp as writed your side.
>>
>> http://www.observium.org/docs/add_device/#troubleshooting
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>> It all work, w hat could be the reason
>>
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>> You cannot add devices by IP address. You need to have working DNS
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>>  Thank I check my DNS, and i add hostname to /etc/host no work add
>Host
>> But I usualy ip-addres, not hostname.
>>
>>  ./add_device.php 10.30.1.1 atbu+1 v2c
>> Observium CE 0.16.1.7533
>> Add Device(s)
>>
>> Try to add 10.30.1.1:
>> Could not resolve 10.30.1.1.
>> Devices failed: 1.
>>
>> I make debug, and attached. please look degub.
>>
>> Thanks
>> >Суббота,  7 мая 2016, 22:28 +06:00 от ron@rjr-services.com:
>> >
>> >You cannot add devices by IP address. You need to have working DNS
>> resolution, or have host to IP mapping in your /etc/hosts file.
>> >
>> >
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If you really insist on IP addresses........

Make a hosts file something like this:
10.0.0.1    10-0-0-1.domain
10.0.0.2    10-0-0-2.domain
10.0.0.3    10-0-0-3.domain
etc
10.1.0.1    10-1-0-1.domain
etc

It would be easy to write a script that would spit this out in seconds.
Then all you have to do is use - instead of . in the "IP address" you
enter. As long as you have your routing correct, it doesn't matter what
device it is or where it is, you'll resolve properly. Your Observium server
won't have to wait for DNS to resolve; you don't have to worry about the
DNS server being available; all the resolving will be local to the
Observium server.


This is such a trivial matter that's been taking up far too much
'bandwidth' on the list.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Claudionei Mendes <
claudionei.mendes@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
>
> I would like to give an example, and I want, mainly the developers of
> observium to think well on this situation.
>
> We often serve temporary events arround, and we need to add this devices
> for monitoring in somewhere.
>
> Now imagine, every weekend, add to host files, IP address to temporary
> devices. Ok, use always the same IP. Right.
>
> In one event we use 5 devices, in another 8.
>
> And what if we have 2 or more events at the same time?
>
> What if my DNS server, that is a monitored server as well fails?
>
> All my monitoring will stop?
>
> IP address is faster and more reliable than Hostnames.
>
> I would like you to think about adding devices just by hostname. We have
> 3000 devices on the network that we would like to add. But none of them
> need registered hostname. For this we have SNMP. They are end devices. They
> need to be monitored to order history and reports, but do not need DNS
> Names.
>
> Important devices have the hostname on the DNS, but any monitoring
> services we used before, we added the devices by hostname. IP is faster.
>
>
>
> Em sáb, 7 de mai de 2016 às 21:31, < observium-request@observium.org>
> escreveu:
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>> From: Nurbek Suleimanov < nurbek@suleimanov.org>
>> To: observium@observium.org
>> Subject: [Observium] Could not resolve
>> Message-ID: < 1462636898.127896886@f371.i.mail.ru>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I want to add the host , and Oservium said Could not resolve 10.30.1.1
>> I check fping & snmp as writed your side.
>>
>> http://www.observium.org/docs/add_device/#troubleshooting
>>
>> It all work, w hat could be the reason
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Best regard,  Suleimanov Nurbek
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>> To: nurbek@suleimanov.org, observium@observium.org
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>>
>> You cannot add devices by IP address. You need to have working DNS
>> resolution, or have host to IP mapping in your /etc/hosts file.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Nurbek Suleimanov < nurbek@suleimanov.org>
>> Date: 05/07/2016  10:01 AM  (GMT-07:00)
>> To: observium@observium.org
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>> To: ron@rjr-services.com
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>>  Thank I check my DNS, and i add hostname to /etc/host no work add Host
>> But I usualy ip-addres, not hostname.
>>
>>  ./add_device.php 10.30.1.1 atbu+1 v2c
>> Observium CE 0.16.1.7533
>> Add Device(s)
>>
>> Try to add 10.30.1.1:
>> Could not resolve 10.30.1.1.
>> Devices failed: 1.
>>
>> I make debug, and attached. please look degub.
>>
>> Thanks
>> >Суббота,  7 мая 2016, 22:28 +06:00 от ron@rjr-services.com:
>> >
>> >You cannot add devices by IP address. You need to have working DNS
>> resolution, or have host to IP mapping in your /etc/hosts file.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>> >
>> >-------- Original message --------
>> >From: Nurbek Suleimanov < nurbek@suleimanov.org >
>> >Date: 05/07/2016  10:01 AM  (GMT-07:00)
>> >To:  observium@observium.org
>> >Subject: [Observium] Could not resolve
>> >
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>> Been using Observium for a while and love it.  We just added a couple of
>> our ESXI 5.1 servers to Observium in the hopes of being able to monitor
>> bandwidth usage on individual VM's and bill against it.  It polled the
>> physical NIC's but not the virtual ones.  We do have multiple VLAN's too if
>> this makes a difference.  Any way to do this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> [cid:image001.jpg@01D1A885.41398360]
>> __________________________________________
>> Anthony Polselli, Chief Technology Officer
>> Natural Networks, Inc.
>> 10225 Barnes Canyon Rd. Suite A105
>> San Diego, CA 92121
>> anthony@naturalnetworks.com<mailto: anthony@naturalnetworks.com>
>> http://www.naturalnetworks.com< http://www.naturalnetworks.com/>
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