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hi Adam, HA is often a requirement from the enterprise world. Monitoring systems are often considered business critical, which means guaranteed HA. I'd appreciate a HA observium setup too.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Date: 03/10/2014 13:48 (GMT+01:00) To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
What is the value of high availability for a non-service affecting support application?
Needless complication for no appreciable gain is the cornerstone of all IT failure.
Adam.
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On 3 October 2014 11:49:07 Paolo De Michele paolo@paolodemichele.it wrote:
hi everybody,
anyone know if it is possible set up observium in high availability? I'm thinking to use it for all my servers but I have necessity to have 2 or more nodes
anyone can help me? thanks in advance
cheers
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Aren’t you in a virtual environment? Use vCetner to setup a HA and put your VM in it. Then your good to go. Back that sucker up with Veeam. Adam does make a good point where if it’s too complex then it gets messy.
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From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Marco Spicuglia Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:01 AM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
hi Adam, HA is often a requirement from the enterprise world. Monitoring systems are often considered business critical, which means guaranteed HA. I'd appreciate a HA observium setup too.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Date: 03/10/2014 13:48 (GMT+01:00) To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
What is the value of high availability for a non-service affecting support application?
Needless complication for no appreciable gain is the cornerstone of all IT failure.
Adam.
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On 3 October 2014 11:49:07 Paolo De Michele <paolo@paolodemichele.itmailto:paolo@paolodemichele.it> wrote:
hi everybody,
anyone know if it is possible set up observium in high availability? I'm thinking to use it for all my servers but I have necessity to have 2 or more nodes
anyone can help me? thanks in advance
cheers
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Marco,
Please don't waste your time. The folks at Observium produce a fine product for a very limited set of use cases, and get upset when you point them at stuff they haven't thought of. The approach is the same as would be typical for MS products - if we haven't delivered this, you don't need it. Quite often they get offensive and rude if you try to argue the point.
In my DC, I use observium to produce graphs for the networking equipment it supports (luckily, it's pretty much everything I use at this time), and have a proper monitoring solution for everything else. Basically Observium is what I show the management when they ask for pretty pictures. Both systems are running in VMs, in HA mode under oVirt, which solves the HA issue for me. A project to migrate everything to a single, flexible and scalable solution is under way.
Hope this helps, Dan
On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Josh Hopper joshhopper@protectplus.com wrote:
Aren’t you in a virtual environment? Use vCetner to setup a HA and put your VM in it. Then your good to go. Back that sucker up with Veeam.
Adam does make a good point where if it’s too complex then it gets messy.
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hi Adam, HA is often a requirement from the enterprise world. Monitoring systems are often considered business critical, which means guaranteed HA. I'd appreciate a HA observium setup too.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Date: 03/10/2014 13:48 (GMT+01:00) To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
What is the value of high availability for a non-service affecting support application?
Needless complication for no appreciable gain is the cornerstone of all IT failure.
Adam.
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On 3 October 2014 11:49:07 Paolo De Michele paolo@paolodemichele.it wrote:
hi everybody,
anyone know if it is possible set up observium in high availability? I'm thinking to use it for all my servers but I have necessity to have 2 or more nodes
anyone can help me? thanks in advance
cheers
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Another day, another reason to consider the enterprise world functionally retarded.
We've considered this multiple times, and always decide it's not a good idea. It'd probably double the complexity of the poller code, and would certainly increase the cost of the product to /everyone/.
Typical of enterprise users to demand an order of magnitude increase in complexity for a fractional improvement. (HA support would, ironically, decrease reliability, as it always does).
Adam.
On 2014-10-03 14:01, Marco Spicuglia wrote:
hi Adam, HA is often a requirement from the enterprise world. Monitoring systems are often considered business critical, which means guaranteed HA. I'd appreciate a HA observium setup too.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Date: 03/10/2014 13:48 (GMT+01:00) To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
What is the value of high availability for a non-service affecting support application?
Needless complication for no appreciable gain is the cornerstone of all IT failure.
Adam.
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On 3 October 2014 11:49:07 Paolo De Michele paolo@paolodemichele.it wrote:
hi everybody,
anyone know if it is possible set up observium in high availability? I'm thinking to use it for all my servers but I have necessity to have 2 or more nodes
anyone can help me? thanks in advance
cheers
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And I personally agree with you. Statistics are clear.
However, I was more thinking to a sort of auto sync, with secondary server not polling, which gets activated only when primary goes down. Anyway, I'm already happy with current functionalities to be honest. Thanks!
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Another day, another reason to consider the enterprise world functionally retarded.
We've considered this multiple times, and always decide it's not a good idea. It'd probably double the complexity of the poller code, and would certainly increase the cost of the product to /everyone/.
Typical of enterprise users to demand an order of magnitude increase in complexity for a fractional improvement. (HA support would, ironically, decrease reliability, as it always does).
Adam.
On 2014-10-03 14:01, Marco Spicuglia wrote:
hi Adam, HA is often a requirement from the enterprise world. Monitoring systems are often considered business critical, which means guaranteed HA. I'd appreciate a HA observium setup too.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Date: 03/10/2014 13:48 (GMT+01:00) To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
What is the value of high availability for a non-service affecting support application?
Needless complication for no appreciable gain is the cornerstone of all IT failure.
Adam.
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On 3 October 2014 11:49:07 Paolo De Michele paolo@paolodemichele.it wrote:
hi everybody,
anyone know if it is possible set up observium in high availability? I'm thinking to use it for all my servers but I have necessity to have 2 or more nodes
anyone can help me? thanks in advance
cheers
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On 2014-10-04 10:39, Marco Spicuglia wrote:
And I personally agree with you. Statistics are clear.
However, I was more thinking to a sort of auto sync, with secondary server not polling, which gets activated only when primary goes down.
Observium is just a MySQL database and a directory of RRD files. You can do this yourself with rsync and MySQL.
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indeed :)
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On 2014-10-04 10:39, Marco Spicuglia wrote:
And I personally agree with you. Statistics are clear.
However, I was more thinking to a sort of auto sync, with secondary server not polling, which gets activated only when primary goes down.
Observium is just a MySQL database and a directory of RRD files. You can do this yourself with rsync and MySQL.
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------ Original Message ------ From: "Nikolay Shopik" shopik@inblock.ru To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 04/10/2014 10:58:44 Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
Thanks Adam for this kinda simplicity, we really love KISS principle
On 04.10.2014 13:43, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Observium is just a MySQL database and a directory of RRD files. You can do this yourself with rsync and MySQL.
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:D
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------ Original Message ------ From: "Nikolay Shopik" shopik@inblock.ru To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 04/10/2014 10:58:44 Subject: Re: [Observium] - high availability
Thanks Adam for this kinda simplicity, we really love KISS principle
On 04.10.2014 13:43, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Observium is just a MySQL database and a directory of RRD files. You can do this yourself with rsync and MySQL.
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Adam Armstrong
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Marco Spicuglia
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Marco Spicuglia
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Nikolay Shopik
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