ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) henrik.cednert@filmlance.se wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" <observium-bounces@observium.org on behalf of mloftis@wgops.com> wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) henrik.cednert@filmlance.se wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
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One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam. On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) henrik.cednert@filmlance.se wrote: Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam.
On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
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I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam. On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) henrik.cednert@filmlance.se wrote: One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]" <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam. On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]> wrote: Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn [http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn]
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-... [http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...]
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s... [http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...]
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: "observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam.
On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam.
On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
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Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: "observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor. adam.On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se>> wrote: One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;) So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me. -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor *Filmlance International* Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>" <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium? One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D adam.On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se>> wrote: Hello The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states: "Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices." So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway. Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right? Cheers and thanks -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote: >I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and >from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY >for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to >speak to the device(s) behind. > >On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) >wrote: >> Hi >> >> I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it. >> >> Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway? >> >> >> >> The tsxetg100: >> http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-ConneXium-Ethernet-Gateway-User-Guide---ENESFRDE/ >> >> >> >> The Powerlogic: >> http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-series/ >> >> >> >> Cheers and thanks >> >> >> -- >> Henrik Cednert >> cto | td | compositor >> >> Filmlance International >> Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> observium mailing list >> observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> >> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > >-- > >"Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors >into trouble of all kinds." >-- Samuel Butler >_______________________________________________ >observium mailing list >observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> >http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference.
http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cxmailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 18:09 To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote: Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam.
On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam.
On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
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Is this just APC stuff?
Probably this will work, from the Observium directory (delete the MIB you placed):
snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c <community> -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB <hostname> enterprises.318
adam.
On 21/01/2016 17:40:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) henrik.cednert@filmlance.se wrote: Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference.
http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A [http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A] -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx [mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 18:09 To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
http://pastebin.com/xkr20Ayd [http://pastebin.com/xkr20Ayd]
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium < [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: " [mailto:observium@observium.org]observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]" <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam. On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) < [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]henrik.cednert@filmlance.se [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]> wrote: One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Adam Armstrong < [mailto:adama@memetic.org]adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System < [mailto:observium@observium.org]observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: " [mailto:observium@observium.org]observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]" <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam. On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]> wrote: Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: [http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn%5Dhttp://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn [http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn]
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-... [http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...]
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s... [http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...]
Cheers and thanks
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Sadly not.
root@filmobserve:/opt/observium# snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c public -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB 192.168.15.80 enterprises.318
PowerNet-MIB::apc = No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 19:33 To: "observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Is this just APC stuff?
Probably this will work, from the Observium directory (delete the MIB you placed):
snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c <community> -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB <hostname> enterprises.318
adam.
On 21/01/2016 17:40:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference.
http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cxmailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 18:09 To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote: Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam.
On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam.
On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
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OK. I think whoever you talked to at APC/Schneider was sadly misinformed.
This device sits in the Schneider oid tree, not the APC oid tree.
You need the SchneiderTFE MIB, or "TFPRIVATE-MIB".
SchneiderTFE-V03-00.mib seems to be mentioned in their FAQs. If you can get any of their other MIBs, that'd be useful too!
adam. On 21/01/2016 19:29:17, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) henrik.cednert@filmlance.se wrote: Sadly not.
root@filmobserve:/opt/observium# snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c public -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB 192.168.15.80 enterprises.318 PowerNet-MIB::apc = No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 19:33 To: "observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]" <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Is this just APC stuff?
Probably this will work, from the Observium directory (delete the MIB you placed):
snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c <community> -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB <hostname> enterprises.318
adam.
On 21/01/2016 17:40:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]> wrote: Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference.
http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A [http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A] -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx [mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 18:09 To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
http://pastebin.com/xkr20Ayd [http://pastebin.com/xkr20Ayd]
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium < [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: " [mailto:observium@observium.org]observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]" <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam. On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) < [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]henrik.cednert@filmlance.se [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]> wrote: One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org]> on behalf of Adam Armstrong < [mailto:adama@memetic.org]adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System < [mailto:observium@observium.org]observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: " [mailto:observium@observium.org]observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]" <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam. On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se [mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se]> wrote: Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: [http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn%5Dhttp://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn [http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn]
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-... [http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...]
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s... [http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...]
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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I got the correct mib's now (attached if any one ever need them). Sadly, I still think i fail though. Not sure why my brain can't wrap itself around how this whole snmpwalk thing works. Guess I have to read up on it, it's like greek to me atm.
I tried the walk with enterprises.318 at the end as previously suggested, that fails with these mib's though.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 20:55 To: "observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
OK. I think whoever you talked to at APC/Schneider was sadly misinformed.
This device sits in the Schneider oid tree, not the APC oid tree.
You need the SchneiderTFE MIB, or "TFPRIVATE-MIB".
SchneiderTFE-V03-00.mib seems to be mentioned in their FAQs. If you can get any of their other MIBs, that'd be useful too!
adam.
On 21/01/2016 19:29:17, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Sadly not.
root@filmobserve:/opt/observium# snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c public -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB 192.168.15.80 enterprises.318
PowerNet-MIB::apc = No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 19:33 To: "observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Is this just APC stuff?
Probably this will work, from the Observium directory (delete the MIB you placed):
snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c <community> -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB <hostname> enterprises.318
adam.
On 21/01/2016 17:40:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference.
http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
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Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote: Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
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I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam.
On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam.
On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
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Command line actually looks ok, possibly it's still not the correct mib ;-)
On 2016-01-22 11:00, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
I got the correct mib's now (attached if any one ever need them). Sadly, I still think i fail though. Not sure why my brain can't wrap itself around how this whole snmpwalk thing works. Guess I have to read up on it, it's like greek to me atm.
I tried the walk with enterprises.318 at the end as previously suggested, that fails with these mib's though.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
*Filmlance International* Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 20:55 To: "observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
OK. I think whoever you talked to at APC/Schneider was sadly misinformed. This device sits in the Schneider oid tree, not the APC oid tree. You need the SchneiderTFE MIB, or "TFPRIVATE-MIB". SchneiderTFE-V03-00.mib seems to be mentioned in their FAQs. If you can get any of their other MIBs, that'd be useful too! adam.On 21/01/2016 19:29:17, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se>> wrote: Sadly not. root@filmobserve:/opt/observium# snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c public -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB 192.168.15.80 enterprises.318 PowerNet-MIB::apc = No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree) -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor *Filmlance International* Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 19:33 To: "observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>" <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium? Is this just APC stuff? Probably this will work, from the Observium directory (delete the MIB you placed): snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c <community> -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB <hostname> enterprises.318 adam.On 21/01/2016 17:40:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se>> wrote: Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference. http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor *Filmlance International* Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>> on behalf of Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx <mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx>> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 18:09 To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium? Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-) On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk. http://pastebin.com/xkr20Ayd Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get. -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor *Filmlance International* Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: "observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium? I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor. adam.On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote: One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;) So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me. -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor *Filmlance International* Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium? One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D adam.On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.se <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se>> wrote: Hello The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states: "Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices." So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway. Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: <http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn>http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right? Cheers and thanks -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote: >I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and >from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY >for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to >speak to the device(s) behind. > >On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) >wrote: >> Hi >> >> I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it. >> >> Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway? >> >> >> >> The tsxetg100: >> http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-ConneXium-Ethernet-Gateway-User-Guide---ENESFRDE/ >> >> >> >> The Powerlogic: >> http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-series/ >> >> >> >> Cheers and thanks >> >> >> -- >> Henrik Cednert >> cto | td | compositor >> >> Filmlance International >> Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> observium mailing list >> observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> >> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > >-- > >"Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its possessors >into trouble of all kinds." >-- Samuel Butler >_______________________________________________ >observium mailing list >observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> >http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.orghttp://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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Oh! That's surprising, to the positive for a change. =)
And what in the output is it that you then lok at and say that it's "possibly not the correct mib"? Asking since I still don't really understand this.
In a line like this: SNMPv2-SMI::mib-2.4.34.1.7.2.1.4.192.168.15.1 = INTEGER: 0
Would you expect to see an actual reference to the TFPRIVATE-MIB and/or that the long section of numbers were replaceable with something humans understand?
Cheers and thanks for your patience. =)
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cxmailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Friday 22 January 2016 at 11:11 To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Command line actually looks ok, possibly it's still not the correct mib ;-)
On 2016-01-22 11:00, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote: I got the correct mib's now (attached if any one ever need them). Sadly, I still think i fail though. Not sure why my brain can't wrap itself around how this whole snmpwalk thing works. Guess I have to read up on it, it's like greek to me atm.
I tried the walk with enterprises.318 at the end as previously suggested, that fails with these mib's though.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 20:55 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
OK. I think whoever you talked to at APC/Schneider was sadly misinformed.
This device sits in the Schneider oid tree, not the APC oid tree.
You need the SchneiderTFE MIB, or "TFPRIVATE-MIB".
SchneiderTFE-V03-00.mib seems to be mentioned in their FAQs. If you can get any of their other MIBs, that'd be useful too!
adam.
On 21/01/2016 19:29:17, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Sadly not.
root@filmobserve:/opt/observium# snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c public -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB 192.168.15.80 enterprises.318
PowerNet-MIB::apc = No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 19:33 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Is this just APC stuff?
Probably this will work, from the Observium directory (delete the MIB you placed):
snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c <community> -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB <hostname> enterprises.318
adam.
On 21/01/2016 17:40:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference.
http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A -- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Tom Laermans <mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cxtom.laermans@powersource.cxmailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 18:09 To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote: Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam.
On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam.
On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
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On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100: http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-ConneXium-Ethernet-Gateway-User-Guide---ENESFRDE/ http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic: http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-series/ http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
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Yes and yes!
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On 22 Jan 2016, 10:42, at 10:42, "Henrik Cednert (Filmlance)" henrik.cednert@filmlance.se wrote:
Oh! That's surprising, to the positive for a change. =)
And what in the output is it that you then lok at and say that it's "possibly not the correct mib"? Asking since I still don't really understand this.
In a line like this: SNMPv2-SMI::mib-2.4.34.1.7.2.1.4.192.168.15.1 = INTEGER: 0
Would you expect to see an actual reference to the TFPRIVATE-MIB and/or that the long section of numbers were replaceable with something humans understand?
Cheers and thanks for your patience. =)
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cxmailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Friday 22 January 2016 at 11:11 To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Command line actually looks ok, possibly it's still not the correct mib ;-)
On 2016-01-22 11:00, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote: I got the correct mib's now (attached if any one ever need them). Sadly, I still think i fail though. Not sure why my brain can't wrap itself around how this whole snmpwalk thing works. Guess I have to read up on it, it's like greek to me atm.
I tried the walk with enterprises.318 at the end as previously suggested, that fails with these mib's though.
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From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 20:55 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
OK. I think whoever you talked to at APC/Schneider was sadly misinformed.
This device sits in the Schneider oid tree, not the APC oid tree.
You need the SchneiderTFE MIB, or "TFPRIVATE-MIB".
SchneiderTFE-V03-00.mib seems to be mentioned in their FAQs. If you can get any of their other MIBs, that'd be useful too!
adam.
On 21/01/2016 19:29:17, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Sadly not.
root@filmobserve:/opt/observium# snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c public -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB 192.168.15.80 enterprises.318
PowerNet-MIB::apc = No more variables left in this MIB View (It is past the end of the MIB tree)
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 19:33 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Is this just APC stuff?
Probably this will work, from the Observium directory (delete the MIB you placed):
snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c <community> -M mibs/rfc:mibs/apc -m PowerNet-MIB <hostname> enterprises.318
adam.
On 21/01/2016 17:40:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <henrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Oh wow. Yeah... So not even that did I succeed with. Think I failed with this too. When running it as suggested it more or less fails because I guess this MIB points at other MIB that's not at that location. Copied it, temporary, to /opt/observium/mibs but when running it there there's no real difference.
http://pastebin.com/nPvV5r4A
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Tom Laermans <mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cxtom.laermans@powersource.cxmailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 18:09 To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
Try -m PowerNet-MIB -M /home/neo/Downloads insteaed of -m /home/neo/Downloads/powernet417.mib ;-)
On 2016-01-21 18:07, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote: Apparently it's the regular powernetMIB (according to support)... Guess it's a lost cause but just for the sake of providing correct info I guess this is the proper snmpwalk.
Not all descriptions fully populated though but guess that's as close as I can get.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 08:24 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
I've no idea. They'll come from the SNMP gateway vendor.
adam.
On 21/01/2016 07:23:28, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
One day when people post snarky comments about peoples shortcomings and lack of skills they'll actually write something constructive about how to properly do something... ;)
So what MIB's are relevant for this? I did a walk first with all MIB's from observium but didn't really look correct to me.
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
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From: observium <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgobservium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> on behalf of Adam Armstrong <mailto:adama@memetic.orgadama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Thursday 21 January 2016 at 07:34 To: "mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org" <mailto:observium@observium.orgobservium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] ModbusTCP via SNMP Gateway. Possible to monitor in Observium?
One day, people posting walks will actually load the relevant mibs... :D
adam.
On 21/01/2016 06:32:36, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) <mailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.sehenrik.cednert@filmlance.semailto:henrik.cednert@filmlance.se> wrote:
Hello
The device is a gateway for the modbus connected devices. Reading the official modbus faq about such setups it states:
"Since Modbus TCP/IP is simply Modbus protocol with a TCP wrapper, it is very simple for existing Modbus devices to communicate over Modbus TCP/IP. A gateway device is required to convert from the current physical layer (RS232, RS485 or others) to Ethernet and to convert Modbus protocol to Modbus TCP/IP. Such a gateway device could be implemented using a PC. Commercial products to do this are available from several different manufactures. The Modbus device database can help you identify gateways and other Modbus devices."
So yes, I'd say you're correct that you'd need to speak Modbus TCP/IP to actually understand the slave device connected to the gateway.
Here's a snmpwalk of the gateway: http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn http://pastebin.com/TbiZT8zn
And observium does not speak Modbus TCP, right?
Cheers and thanks
-- Henrik Cednert cto | td | compositor
Filmlance International Direct + 46 (0)704 71 89 54
On 21/01/16 00:16, "observium on behalf of Michael Loftis" wrote:
I don't see any technical documentation readily visible there, and from the basic description SNMP is not for polling the Modbus but ONLY for monitoring the TSXETG100 itself. You have to speak Modbus/TCP to speak to the device(s) behind.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Henrik Cednert (Filmlance) wrote:
Hi
I have a schneider tsxetg100 ethernet gateway that has a PowerLogic
PM3250 attached to it. I can successfully monitor this in APC StruxureWare Data Center expert but trying to get away from that solution. Observium does find and see the tsxetg100 as a generic device but I don't see the PowerLogic attached to it.
Is it possible to monitor a Modbus TCP device like this through the
SNMP gateway?
The tsxetg100:
http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-ConneXium-Ethernet-Gateway-User-Guide---ENESFRDE/ http://www.schneider-electric.com/download/ww/en/details/25779671-TSXETG100-...
The Powerlogic:
http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-series/ http://www.schneider-electric.com/en/product-range/61274-powerlogic-pm3000-s...
Cheers and thanks
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