VMware VMs keeps discovering more and more
Dear community,
This week I started with a new Observium installation, and love the product. A small problem is with my VMware 6.7 hosts (I know they are old) which keeps adding the same VM's to the list. How can I resolve this?
Same VM a lot of times: [cid:image001.png@01DB1B14.94FE47F0]
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden Industrial Automation
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Dear community,
This week I started with a new Observium installation, and love the product. A small problem is with my VMware 6.7 hosts (I know they are old) which keeps adding the same VM's to the list. How can I resolve this?
Same VM a lot of times: [cid:image001.png@01DB1B14.94FE47F0]
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden Industrial Automation
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Hi Ivo,
I had this issue for some time and as I experienced it, I got VMs twice usually. I was always a bit behind the latest version (Enterprise License) so I couldn't confirm my test scenarios with the latest code. It was a minor annoyance in my case, so couldn't prioritise it. I however noticed that the issue does not arise with ESXi 7. Now, ESXi 6.7 is being deprecated (no support, no security patches !) and VMWare was bought by broadcom (and has sinister plans for 'small' customers) so my advice would be to move to ESXi 7 anyway (for security's sake) or move to ProxMox or any other virtualization platform.
Hint: if you have your VMs themselves monitored in Observium, if you give vmware the same hostname, Observium will nicely add links in the VMs tab to the related device page.
Ahmed.
Le jeu. 10 oct. 2024, à 07 h 05, Ivo van Tulden via observium < observium@lists.observium.org> a écrit :
Dear community,
This week I started with a new Observium installation, and love the product.
A small problem is with my VMware 6.7 hosts (I know they are old) which keeps adding the same VM’s to the list.
How can I resolve this?
Same VM a lot of times:
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden
Industrial Automation
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Hi,
A small update on the matter,
Looks like there is a mixup with the discovery. It wants to add IVM03V1D, IVM04V1D and IVM06V1d as the same VM ‘VSM02V01’. Those might have been cloned in the past (before my time in this position). [cid:image001.png@01DB25F2.B7FFA760]
You are right about the outdated VMware version but I will not give up that easy 😊 Showing below the issue is also with some version of 7.0.2 Same VM added multiple times in VM list https://jira.observium.org/projects/OBS/issues/OBS-4883?filter=allissues
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden Industrial Automation
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Van: Ahmed Rahal via observium observium@lists.observium.org Verzonden: donderdag 10 oktober 2024 16:07 Aan: Observium observium@lists.observium.org CC: Ahmed Rahal arahal@fibrenoire.ca Onderwerp: [Observium] Re: VMware VMs keeps discovering more and more
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Hi Ivo,
I had this issue for some time and as I experienced it, I got VMs twice usually. I was always a bit behind the latest version (Enterprise License) so I couldn't confirm my test scenarios with the latest code. It was a minor annoyance in my case, so couldn't prioritise it. I however noticed that the issue does not arise with ESXi 7. Now, ESXi 6.7 is being deprecated (no support, no security patches !) and VMWare was bought by broadcom (and has sinister plans for 'small' customers) so my advice would be to move to ESXi 7 anyway (for security's sake) or move to ProxMox or any other virtualization platform.
Hint: if you have your VMs themselves monitored in Observium, if you give vmware the same hostname, Observium will nicely add links in the VMs tab to the related device page.
Ahmed.
Le jeu. 10 oct. 2024, à 07 h 05, Ivo van Tulden via observium <observium@lists.observium.orgmailto:observium@lists.observium.org> a écrit : Dear community,
This week I started with a new Observium installation, and love the product. A small problem is with my VMware 6.7 hosts (I know they are old) which keeps adding the same VM’s to the list. How can I resolve this?
Same VM a lot of times: [cid:image003.png@01DB25F2.B7FFA760]
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden Industrial Automation
****
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Hi,
Second update 😊 Was looking in the database if there is more information. What I found in the table vminfo is a column ‘vm_uuid’ which is filled with the value ‘uuid.bios’ from the <vm>.vmx file.
There are duplicates in this table, the same you can see in Observium GUI. The duplicates are ‘correct’ as the same values are used in the different .vmx files for the VM’s in VMware/ESXi. When cloning a VM the ‘uuid.bios’ doesn’t seem to update this value (keeps the same), which in turn creates the duplicates in Observium.
The problem starts with VMware/ESXi, not with Observium. Does anybody know if this value can be changed in VMware/ESXi ?
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden Industrial Automation
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Van: Ivo van Tulden via observium observium@lists.observium.org Verzonden: donderdag 24 oktober 2024 08:57 Aan: Observium observium@lists.observium.org CC: Ivo van Tulden i.van.tulden@vlisco.com Onderwerp: [Observium] Re: VMware VMs keeps discovering more and more
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Hi,
A small update on the matter,
Looks like there is a mixup with the discovery. It wants to add IVM03V1D, IVM04V1D and IVM06V1d as the same VM ‘VSM02V01’. Those might have been cloned in the past (before my time in this position). [cid:image004.png@01DB25F6.FFE34AB0]
You are right about the outdated VMware version but I will not give up that easy 😊 Showing below the issue is also with some version of 7.0.2 Same VM added multiple times in VM list https://jira.observium.org/projects/OBS/issues/OBS-4883?filter=allissues
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden Industrial Automation [cid:image002.png@01DB25F6.FFE34AB0]
Van: Ahmed Rahal via observium <observium@lists.observium.orgmailto:observium@lists.observium.org> Verzonden: donderdag 10 oktober 2024 16:07 Aan: Observium <observium@lists.observium.orgmailto:observium@lists.observium.org> CC: Ahmed Rahal <arahal@fibrenoire.camailto:arahal@fibrenoire.ca> Onderwerp: [Observium] Re: VMware VMs keeps discovering more and more
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Hi Ivo,
I had this issue for some time and as I experienced it, I got VMs twice usually. I was always a bit behind the latest version (Enterprise License) so I couldn't confirm my test scenarios with the latest code. It was a minor annoyance in my case, so couldn't prioritise it. I however noticed that the issue does not arise with ESXi 7. Now, ESXi 6.7 is being deprecated (no support, no security patches !) and VMWare was bought by broadcom (and has sinister plans for 'small' customers) so my advice would be to move to ESXi 7 anyway (for security's sake) or move to ProxMox or any other virtualization platform.
Hint: if you have your VMs themselves monitored in Observium, if you give vmware the same hostname, Observium will nicely add links in the VMs tab to the related device page.
Ahmed.
Le jeu. 10 oct. 2024, à 07 h 05, Ivo van Tulden via observium <observium@lists.observium.orgmailto:observium@lists.observium.org> a écrit : Dear community,
This week I started with a new Observium installation, and love the product. A small problem is with my VMware 6.7 hosts (I know they are old) which keeps adding the same VM’s to the list. How can I resolve this?
Same VM a lot of times: [cid:image005.png@01DB25F6.FFE34AB0]
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden Industrial Automation
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Hi,
please make common debugging as for issue and send me (out of list).
* discovery debug:
./discovery.php -d -h <device>
* snmpdump for this host:
./scripts/snmpdump.php -h <device>
Ivo van Tulden via observium wrote on 24.10.2024 09:35:
Hi,
Second update 😊
Was looking in the database if there is more information.
What I found in the table *vminfo* is a column *‘vm_uuid’* which is filled with the value *‘uuid.bios’* from the *<vm>.vmx *file.
There are duplicates in this table, the same you can see in Observium GUI.
The duplicates are ‘correct’ as the same values are used in the different .vmx files for the VM’s in VMware/ESXi.
When cloning a VM the ‘uuid.bios’ doesn’t seem to update this value (keeps the same), which in turn creates the duplicates in Observium.
The problem starts with VMware/ESXi, not with Observium.
Does anybody know if this value can be changed in VMware/ESXi ?
Met vriendelijke groet,
Ivo van Tulden
Industrial Automation
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