Hi
I need to ensure our install of Observium is fully backed up and I'd rather not backup the entire VM. Could you please confirm if all I need to backup are:
* /opt/observium directory
* Observium database
* /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
What I'd like to achieve from the backups is to spin up a new VM instance, run through the install steps to get the required components installed, then restore the files so that Observium then just runs as it was at the point of the last backup. I have tried checking the FAQ and a search of the mailing list but I couldn't find any specific instructions.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein
Custodian DataCentre
email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
Hi Mahomed,
Observium stores its data in 2 places:
- rrd directory (usually /opt/observium/rrd) - mysql database
If you back up those 2, you should have a backup.
If you're not running the latest version, take note of the revision number, and check out that version from svn upon restore (or, alternatively, as you said, back up the entire source directory instead).
You should then after installing the necessary dependencies have a working installation again.
Tom
On 15/10/2012 13:35, Mahomed Hussein wrote:
Hi
I need to ensure our install of Observium is fully backed up and I'd rather not backup the entire VM. Could you please confirm if all I need to backup are:
·/opt/observium directory
·Observium database
·/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
What I'd like to achieve from the backups is to spin up a new VM instance, run through the install steps to get the required components installed, then restore the files so that Observium then just runs as it was at the point of the last backup. I have tried checking the FAQ and a search of the mailing list but I couldn't find any specific instructions.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
*Mahomed Hussein*
Custodian DataCentre
email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Hi Tom
Thanks for the quick and helpful response. I'll go with backing up the entire directory. On a semi-related note, is there a way of being notified by email when there is an update available as it seems we are manually doing the svn update at the moment.
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein
Custodian DataCentre
email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Tom Laermans Sent: 15 October 2012 12:46 To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
Hi Mahomed,
Observium stores its data in 2 places:
- rrd directory (usually /opt/observium/rrd) - mysql database
If you back up those 2, you should have a backup.
If you're not running the latest version, take note of the revision number, and check out that version from svn upon restore (or, alternatively, as you said, back up the entire source directory instead).
You should then after installing the necessary dependencies have a working installation again.
Tom
On 15/10/2012 13:35, Mahomed Hussein wrote: Hi
I need to ensure our install of Observium is fully backed up and I'd rather not backup the entire VM. Could you please confirm if all I need to backup are:
* /opt/observium directory
* Observium database
* /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
What I'd like to achieve from the backups is to spin up a new VM instance, run through the install steps to get the required components installed, then restore the files so that Observium then just runs as it was at the point of the last backup. I have tried checking the FAQ and a search of the mailing list but I couldn't find any specific instructions.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein
Custodian DataCentre
email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.commailto:Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
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Hey,
some svn command + little script to check if it is actual update + mail command ?
that's how I would do it… or is there something build-in into observium for that ?
On 15 Oct 2012, at 13:58, Mahomed Hussein Mahomed@CustodianDC.com wrote:
Hi Tom
Thanks for the quick and helpful response. I’ll go with backing up the entire directory. On a semi-related note, is there a way of being notified by email when there is an update available as it seems we are manually doing the svn update at the moment.
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein
Custodian DataCentre
email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf OfTom Laermans Sent: 15 October 2012 12:46 To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
Hi Mahomed,
Observium stores its data in 2 places:
- rrd directory (usually /opt/observium/rrd)
- mysql database
If you back up those 2, you should have a backup.
If you're not running the latest version, take note of the revision number, and check out that version from svn upon restore (or, alternatively, as you said, back up the entire source directory instead).
You should then after installing the necessary dependencies have a working installation again.
Tom
On 15/10/2012 13:35, Mahomed Hussein wrote: Hi
I need to ensure our install of Observium is fully backed up and I’d rather not backup the entire VM. Could you please confirm if all I need to backup are:
· /opt/observium directory · Observium database · /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
What I’d like to achieve from the backups is to spin up a new VM instance, run through the install steps to get the required components installed, then restore the files so that Observium then just runs as it was at the point of the last backup. I have tried checking the FAQ and a search of the mailing list but I couldn’t find any specific instructions.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein
Custodian DataCentre
email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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I tend to use cron to just svn up every night. :)
I would recommend *not* backing up the entire directory, and just the RRDs, MySQL and config.php.
When you "reinstall" all you do is svn co, copy RRD, copy config.php, insert MySQL and it should pick up where it left off.
I actually do this quite often when i break my installation when doing dev.
adam.
On 15/10/2012 07:06, Maarten De Wispelaere wrote:
Hey,
some svn command + little script to check if it is actual update + mail command ?
that's how I would do it... or is there something build-in into observium for that ?
On 15 Oct 2012, at 13:58, Mahomed Hussein <Mahomed@CustodianDC.com mailto:Mahomed@CustodianDC.com> wrote:
Hi Tom Thanks for the quick and helpful response. I'll go with backing up the entire directory. On a semi-related note, is there a way of being notified by email when there is an update available as it seems we are manually doing the svn update at the moment. Kind regards,
*Mahomed Hussein*
Custodian DataCentre
email:Mahomed@CustodianDC.com mailto:Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
*From:*observium-bounces@observium.org mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org mailto:bounces@observium.org]*On Behalf Of*Tom Laermans *Sent:*15 October 2012 12:46 *To:*Observium Network Observation System *Subject:*Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium Hi Mahomed,
Observium stores its data in 2 places:
- rrd directory (usually /opt/observium/rrd)
- mysql database
If you back up those 2, you should have a backup.
If you're not running the latest version, take note of the revision number, and check out that version from svn upon restore (or, alternatively, as you said, back up the entire source directory instead).
You should then after installing the necessary dependencies have a working installation again.
Tom
On 15/10/2012 13:35, Mahomed Hussein wrote:
Hi I need to ensure our install of Observium is fully backed up and I'd rather not backup the entire VM. Could you please confirm if all I need to backup are: ·/opt/observium directory ·Observium database ·/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default What I'd like to achieve from the backups is to spin up a new VM instance, run through the install steps to get the required components installed, then restore the files so that Observium then just runs as it was at the point of the last backup. I have tried checking the FAQ and a search of the mailing list but I couldn't find any specific instructions. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Kind regards, *Mahomed Hussein* Custodian DataCentre email:Mahomed@CustodianDC.com <mailto:Mahomed@CustodianDC.com> _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Maarten De Wispelaere < maarten.dewispelaere@intec.ugent.be> wrote:
Hey,
some svn command + little script to check if it is actual update + mail command ?
that's how I would do it… or is there something build-in into observium for that ?
I would use something like 'svn status --show-updates' in a cron job. You may have to pipe that to grep -v to filter out stuff you don't want, e.g. observium.log.
Actually, I just run 'svn up /opt/observium' from crontab once a week to auto-update, but that might be a little too trusting for some. ;)
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Morgan
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:44 PM, David Brodbeck brodbd@uw.edu wrote:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Maarten De Wispelaere < maarten.dewispelaere@intec.ugent.be> wrote:
Hey,
some svn command + little script to check if it is actual update + mail command ?
that's how I would do it… or is there something build-in into observium for that ?
I would use something like 'svn status --show-updates' in a cron job. You may have to pipe that to grep -v to filter out stuff you don't want, e.g. observium.log.
Actually, I just run 'svn up /opt/observium' from crontab once a week to auto-update, but that might be a little too trusting for some. ;)
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On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
adam.
Amen.
Kind Regards,
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On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
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- ABN: 84 034 347 523
- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
- Fax: 03 8648 6659
On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
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- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
- ABN: 84 034 347 523
- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
- Fax: 03 8648 6659
On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install
updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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lol sorry, I thought I had refrained. Guess scumbag brain took over.
morgan
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:56 PM, John Macleod jcdmacleod@me.com wrote:
Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
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- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
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- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
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On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to
install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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Come on? Not wanting to start a debate on the topic but given Adam wasn't using 'foul language' in a degrotary manner against anyone, etc, I say fair game.
Who hear hasn't let much worse slip when the sh!t has hit the fan in a work/life situation before.
Chill out mate.
Kind Regards,
David Hill ------------------------------------------------ * Hostcentral - Since 2002 * http://www.hostcentral.net.au * ABN: 84 034 347 523 * Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658 * Fax: 03 8648 6659 ------------------------------------------------
On 17/10/2012, at 8:56 AM, John Macleod jcdmacleod@me.com wrote:
Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
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On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install
updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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I actually swear much, much worse at work, but I'm from the North East of England, so it's ok.
"language" is very relative, words are just words, please do not try to push your own localised cultural programming on others.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 17:01, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Come on? Not wanting to start a debate on the topic but given Adam wasn't using 'foul language' in a degrotary manner against anyone, etc, I say fair game.
Who hear hasn't let much worse slip when the sh!t has hit the fan in a work/life situation before.
Chill out mate.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
- Hostcentral - Since 2002
- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
- ABN: 84 034 347 523
- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
- Fax: 03 8648 6659
On 17/10/2012, at 8:56 AM, John Macleod jcdmacleod@me.com wrote:
Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
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- ABN: 84 034 347 523
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On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install
updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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Says the Pom to the Aussie.
Kind Regards,
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On 17/10/2012, at 10:02 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
I actually swear much, much worse at work, but I'm from the North East of England, so it's ok.
"language" is very relative, words are just words, please do not try to push your own localised cultural programming on others.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 17:01, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Come on? Not wanting to start a debate on the topic but given Adam wasn't using 'foul language' in a degrotary manner against anyone, etc, I say fair game.
Who hear hasn't let much worse slip when the sh!t has hit the fan in a work/life situation before.
Chill out mate.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
- Hostcentral - Since 2002
- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
- ABN: 84 034 347 523
- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
- Fax: 03 8648 6659
On 17/10/2012, at 8:56 AM, John Macleod jcdmacleod@me.com wrote:
Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
- Hostcentral - Since 2002
- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
- ABN: 84 034 347 523
- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
- Fax: 03 8648 6659
On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install
updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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Well some people just use profanity to make up sentence from words. Its just like clue but for words, otherwise you won't understand a single thing what he trying to say, just a bunch of random words w/o any meaning ;)
On 17.10.2012 3:02, Adam Armstrong wrote:
I actually swear much, much worse at work, but I'm from the North East of England, so it's ok.
"language" is very relative, words are just words, please do not try to push your own localised cultural programming on others.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 17:01, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Come on? Not wanting to start a debate on the topic but given Adam wasn't using 'foul language' in a degrotary manner against anyone, etc, I say fair game.
Who hear hasn't let much worse slip when the sh!t has hit the fan in a work/life situation before.
Chill out mate.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
- Hostcentral - Since 2002
- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
- ABN: 84 034 347 523
- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
- Fax: 03 8648 6659
On 17/10/2012, at 8:56 AM, John Macleod jcdmacleod@me.com wrote:
Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
David Hill
- Hostcentral - Since 2002
- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
- ABN: 84 034 347 523
- Tel: 1300 786 400 / 03 8648 6658
- Fax: 03 8648 6659
On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install
updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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If you're offended, you can use Cacti.
This is not a Kindergarten, do not expect it to be.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:56, John Macleod wrote:
Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
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On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install
updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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I am pretty sure its not required, but it is optional, just like this list. =P
On 2012-10-16 17:58, Adam Armstrong wrote:
If you're offended, you can use Cacti.
This is not a Kindergarten, do not expect it to be.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:56, John Macleod wrote:
Is the language on this list really required?
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:56 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
I have quit 3 jobs shorly after they implemented BS7799/ISO17799.
Coincidence? No. Life is too fucking short.
adam.
On 16/10/2012 16:52, David Hill | Hostcentral wrote:
Amen.
Kind Regards,
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- http://www.hostcentral.net.au
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On 17/10/2012, at 8:50 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install
updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's
the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you
should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
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If I worked for a startup, that mentality would be fine. You're right, Observium is not that important, thats what I use Nagios for.
No need to bash my advice, nobody has to take it.
Morgan
You're right, Observium is not mission critical, thats what nagios is for. BUT, I have noticed when Observium shits on itself, its
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
adam.
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Ignore that tid bit at the bottom I thought I had removed and decided not to say ;)
Morgan
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Morgan McLean wrx230@gmail.com wrote:
If I worked for a startup, that mentality would be fine. You're right, Observium is not that important, thats what I use Nagios for.
No need to bash my advice, nobody has to take it.
Morgan
You're right, Observium is not mission critical, thats what nagios is for. BUT, I have noticed when Observium shits on itself, its
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:
Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02
Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's the point?
a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something
ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane.
adam.
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lols :>
Email is FOREVER!
On 16/10/2012 16:54, Morgan McLean wrote:
Ignore that tid bit at the bottom I thought I had removed and decided not to say ;)
Morgan
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Morgan McLean <wrx230@gmail.com mailto:wrx230@gmail.com> wrote:
If I worked for a startup, that mentality would be fine. You're right, Observium is not that important, thats what I use Nagios for. No need to bash my advice, nobody has to take it. Morgan You're right, Observium is not mission critical, thats what nagios is for. BUT, I have noticed when Observium shits on itself, its On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: On 16/10/2012 16:46, Morgan McLean wrote:Observium is great, don't get me wrong, but its probably best to install updates to a sandbox environment before blindly updating a production observium install. Just my .02Except for the fact that observium is never mission critical, so what's the point? a) waste an hour of your life every SVN update b) potentially lose a few hours data if an update breaks something ITIL(or similar) is nice (no it's not, it's fucking retarded), but you should apply some common sense on where it is best to spend your time, otherwise you will go insane. adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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Actually, I just run 'svn up /opt/observium' from crontab once a week to auto-update, but that might be a little too trusting for some. ;)
That is actually the recommended method. Historically we see far more issues from people not updating for 6 months and then expecting to cleanly upgrade through 500 commits. :)
adam.
Thanks for the advice. I've now setup a cron job to update observium every week and the backup jobs have been configured to only backup the DB, config and RRDs.
On a side note, I completely agree about ITIL. I personally prefer the school of "common sense" :)
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein Custodian DataCentre email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
-----Original Message----- From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: 16 October 2012 22:48 To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Backing Up Observium
Actually, I just run 'svn up /opt/observium' from crontab once a week to auto-update, but that might be a little too trusting for some. ;)
That is actually the recommended method. Historically we see far more issues from people not updating for 6 months and then expecting to cleanly upgrade through 500 commits. :)
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database, rrd files, and config.php, vhost configuration file. That's minimal of what you need.
On 15/10/12 15:35, Mahomed Hussein wrote:
Hi
I need to ensure our install of Observium is fully backed up and I'd rather not backup the entire VM. Could you please confirm if all I need to backup are:
/opt/observium directoryObservium database/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-defaultWhat I'd like to achieve from the backups is to spin up a new VM instance, run through the install steps to get the required components installed, then restore the files so that Observium then just runs as it was at the point of the last backup. I have tried checking the FAQ and a search of the mailing list but I couldn't find any specific instructions.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Mahomed Hussein
Custodian DataCentre
email: Mahomed@CustodianDC.com
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