Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE's.
Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties?
Thanks
TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER
The SNMP implementations and MIB structure on these wireless devices make me want to stab out my eyes.
We have some vague plans to try to work out some infrasdtructure to fit wireless kit into in the future, but none of us have any wireless experience, and each of the vendors seem to have approached the problem in (at least one) entirely different (and usually equally broken) manner, making it even harder to come up with a common schema.
At the moment there isn't a place to put bounties, mostly because it encourages people to expect major (and often ill-advised) changes for small amounts of money. ;)
adam.
------ Original Message ------ From: "Travis Kreikemeier" travis@travko.com To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 10/28/2014 10:54:05 AM Subject: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE’s.
Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties?
Thanks
TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER
Adam,
Unfortunately I think the wireless ISPs have figured out how good this product is and you are only going to get more requests for this kind of thing.
When the time comes, I can make available wireless hardware for Ubiquiti AirFiber 24 ghz and 5 ghz links as well as Mikrotik point to point and point to multipoint links for use by the development team. (public ip snmp access) Also willing to lend wireless experience/explanations.
Ubuiquiti’s snmp implementation on the AirFiber’s are just wacky. Only traffic that the CPU processes shows under the usual interface spot i.e. management traffic. The traffic you actually want to see is in a whole other section. It’s mostly because of the hardware structure of the radio with is dsp’s and such.
Justin
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
The SNMP implementations and MIB structure on these wireless devices make me want to stab out my eyes.
We have some vague plans to try to work out some infrasdtructure to fit wireless kit into in the future, but none of us have any wireless experience, and each of the vendors seem to have approached the problem in (at least one) entirely different (and usually equally broken) manner, making it even harder to come up with a common schema.
At the moment there isn't a place to put bounties, mostly because it encourages people to expect major (and often ill-advised) changes for small amounts of money. ;)
adam.
------ Original Message ------ From: "Travis Kreikemeier" <travis@travko.com mailto:travis@travko.com> To: "Observium Network Observation System" <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Sent: 10/28/2014 10:54:05 AM Subject: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE’s.
Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties?
Thanks
TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER
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Adam,
I would love to see support for Airfiber and Ubiquiti Airmax radios too.
Thanks!
Keefe
On 10/28/2014 8:34 PM, Justin Miller wrote:
Adam,
Unfortunately I think the wireless ISPs have figured out how good this product is and you are only going to get more requests for this kind of thing.
When the time comes, I can make available wireless hardware for Ubiquiti AirFiber 24 ghz and 5 ghz links as well as Mikrotik point to point and point to multipoint links for use by the development team. (public ip snmp access) Also willing to lend wireless experience/explanations.
Ubuiquiti’s snmp implementation on the AirFiber’s are just wacky. Only traffic that the CPU processes shows under the usual interface spot i.e. management traffic. The traffic you actually want to see is in a whole other section. It’s mostly because of the hardware structure of the radio with is dsp’s and such.
Justin
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote:
The SNMP implementations and MIB structure on these wireless devices make me want to stab out my eyes. We have some vague plans to try to work out some infrasdtructure to fit wireless kit into in the future, but none of us have any wireless experience, and each of the vendors seem to have approached the problem in (at least one) entirely different (and usually equally broken) manner, making it even harder to come up with a common schema. At the moment there isn't a place to put bounties, mostly because it encourages people to expect major (and often ill-advised) changes for small amounts of money. ;) adam. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Travis Kreikemeier" <travis@travko.com mailto:travis@travko.com> To: "Observium Network Observation System" <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Sent: 10/28/2014 10:54:05 AM Subject: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE’s. Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties? Thanks *TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER*
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By device count Ubiquiti Airmax is like %80 of over 400 devices.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM, Keefe John keefe-af@ethoplex.com wrote:
Adam,
I would love to see support for Airfiber and Ubiquiti Airmax radios too.
Thanks!
Keefe
On 10/28/2014 8:34 PM, Justin Miller wrote:
Adam,
Unfortunately I think the wireless ISPs have figured out how good this product is and you are only going to get more requests for this kind of thing.
When the time comes, I can make available wireless hardware for Ubiquiti AirFiber 24 ghz and 5 ghz links as well as Mikrotik point to point and point to multipoint links for use by the development team. (public ip snmp access) Also willing to lend wireless experience/explanations.
Ubuiquiti’s snmp implementation on the AirFiber’s are just wacky. Only traffic that the CPU processes shows under the usual interface spot i.e. management traffic. The traffic you actually want to see is in a whole other section. It’s mostly because of the hardware structure of the radio with is dsp’s and such.
Justin
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
The SNMP implementations and MIB structure on these wireless devices make me want to stab out my eyes.
We have some vague plans to try to work out some infrasdtructure to fit wireless kit into in the future, but none of us have any wireless experience, and each of the vendors seem to have approached the problem in (at least one) entirely different (and usually equally broken) manner, making it even harder to come up with a common schema.
At the moment there isn't a place to put bounties, mostly because it encourages people to expect major (and often ill-advised) changes for small amounts of money. ;)
adam.
------ Original Message ------ From: "Travis Kreikemeier" travis@travko.com To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 10/28/2014 10:54:05 AM Subject: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE’s.
Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties?
Thanks
*TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER*
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Just doing some digging on a couple of UBNT nanostations I'm running, it appears that UBNT are utilizing some SNMP OIDs from the Mikrotik MIB (enterprises.14988) in addition to their own (FROGFOOT, enterprises.10002) MIB. Most importantly, it's the radio-side statistics OIDs. here's what I'm getting from a client-side 3.65GHz radio:
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memTotal.0 = Gauge32: 29524
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memFree.0 = Gauge32: 11024
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memBuffer.0 = Gauge32: 2080
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memCache.0 = Gauge32: 0
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::swapTotal.0 = Gauge32: 0
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::swapFree.0 = Gauge32: 0
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadNumber.0 = INTEGER: 3
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadIndex.1 = INTEGER: 1
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadIndex.2 = INTEGER: 2
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadIndex.3 = INTEGER: 3
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadDescr.1 = STRING: 1 Minute Average
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadDescr.2 = STRING: 5 Minute Average
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadDescr.3 = STRING: 15 Minute Average
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadValue.1 = Gauge32: 0
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadValue.2 = Gauge32: 0
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadValue.3 = Gauge32: 0
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatTxRate.5 = Gauge32: 146250000
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatRxRate.5 = Gauge32: 146250000
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatStrength.5 = INTEGER: -60
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatSsid.5 = STRING: CHANGEDTOPROTECTTHEGUILTY
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatBssid.5 = STRING: CHANGEDTOPROTECTTHEGUILTY
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatFreq.5 = INTEGER: 3667
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabStrength.'.'"FV.'.5 = INTEGER: -60
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabTxBytes.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 2031561417
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabRxBytes.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 704139062
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabTxPackets.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 111296
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabRxPackets.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 151967791
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabTxRate.'.'"FV.'.5 = Gauge32: 146250000
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabRxRate.'.'"FV.'.5 = Gauge32: 146250000
Looking at the AP side walk, it shows RF data for both of the connected stations on this one AP, but the differentiator isn't using a normal SNMP OID number, rather it's a field, in my case "FV." vs "FW.".
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabStrength.'.'"FV.'.5 = INTEGER: -64
MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabStrength.'.'"FW.'.5 = INTEGER: -70
So that may make things a bit more interesting trying to figure out how to poll/graph that information.
I haven't even tried beating on any of our AF24s yet, that'll be next.
.Ron
From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:49 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Adam,
I would love to see support for Airfiber and Ubiquiti Airmax radios too.
Thanks!
Keefe
On 10/28/2014 8:34 PM, Justin Miller wrote:
Adam,
Unfortunately I think the wireless ISPs have figured out how good this product is and you are only going to get more requests for this kind of thing.
When the time comes, I can make available wireless hardware for Ubiquiti AirFiber 24 ghz and 5 ghz links as well as Mikrotik point to point and point to multipoint links for use by the development team. (public ip snmp access) Also willing to lend wireless experience/explanations.
Ubuiquiti's snmp implementation on the AirFiber's are just wacky. Only traffic that the CPU processes shows under the usual interface spot i.e. management traffic. The traffic you actually want to see is in a whole other section. It's mostly because of the hardware structure of the radio with is dsp's and such.
Justin
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
The SNMP implementations and MIB structure on these wireless devices make me want to stab out my eyes.
We have some vague plans to try to work out some infrasdtructure to fit wireless kit into in the future, but none of us have any wireless experience, and each of the vendors seem to have approached the problem in (at least one) entirely different (and usually equally broken) manner, making it even harder to come up with a common schema.
At the moment there isn't a place to put bounties, mostly because it encourages people to expect major (and often ill-advised) changes for small amounts of money. ;)
adam.
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From: "Travis Kreikemeier" travis@travko.com
To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org
Sent: 10/28/2014 10:54:05 AM
Subject: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE's.
Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties?
Thanks
TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER
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I will say with 100% certainty, if Canopy PMP gear was supported, I would have absolutely no issue purchasing the product.
I'm still playing with the community version.
These are the items that are causing me slight hesitation:
- Email alerts when triggers are met - As I understand this functions in the subscription version
- Grouping (being able to have my Access Points grouped together, and also have all clients on one access point visible together) - Again I understand this is part of the subscription version
- Canopy PMP100 support (this and the 2 previous items would make this an easy choice for me).
I do not yet have the subscription version, it seems there is some confusion on whether alerts and grouping are working 100% on the subscription version to meet my needs, can anyone verify yes or no?
We use primarily Canopy PMP100, and Ubiquiti in our network. And use Mikrotik routers.
Thanks.
jeremy lukan SKYVelocity Manager - GL Mobile
From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Ron Marosko Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:04 AM To: 'Observium Network Observation System' Subject: Re: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Just doing some digging on a couple of UBNT nanostations I'm running, it appears that UBNT are utilizing some SNMP OIDs from the Mikrotik MIB (enterprises.14988) in addition to their own (FROGFOOT, enterprises.10002) MIB. Most importantly, it's the radio-side statistics OIDs... here's what I'm getting from a client-side 3.65GHz radio:
FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memTotal.0 = Gauge32: 29524 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memFree.0 = Gauge32: 11024 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memBuffer.0 = Gauge32: 2080 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::memCache.0 = Gauge32: 0 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::swapTotal.0 = Gauge32: 0 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::swapFree.0 = Gauge32: 0 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadNumber.0 = INTEGER: 3 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadIndex.1 = INTEGER: 1 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadIndex.2 = INTEGER: 2 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadIndex.3 = INTEGER: 3 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadDescr.1 = STRING: 1 Minute Average FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadDescr.2 = STRING: 5 Minute Average FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadDescr.3 = STRING: 15 Minute Average FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadValue.1 = Gauge32: 0 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadValue.2 = Gauge32: 0 FROGFOOT-RESOURCES-MIB::loadValue.3 = Gauge32: 0 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatTxRate.5 = Gauge32: 146250000 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatRxRate.5 = Gauge32: 146250000 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatStrength.5 = INTEGER: -60 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatSsid.5 = STRING: CHANGEDTOPROTECTTHEGUILTY MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatBssid.5 = STRING: CHANGEDTOPROTECTTHEGUILTY MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlStatFreq.5 = INTEGER: 3667 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabStrength.'.'"FV.'.5 = INTEGER: -60 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabTxBytes.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 2031561417 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabRxBytes.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 704139062 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabTxPackets.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 111296 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabRxPackets.'.'"FV.'.5 = Counter32: 151967791 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabTxRate.'.'"FV.'.5 = Gauge32: 146250000 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabRxRate.'.'"FV.'.5 = Gauge32: 146250000
Looking at the AP side walk, it shows RF data for both of the connected stations on this one AP, but the differentiator isn't using a normal SNMP OID number, rather it's a field, in my case "FV." vs "FW."... MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabStrength.'.'"FV.'.5 = INTEGER: -64 MIKROTIK-MIB::mtxrWlRtabStrength.'.'"FW.'.5 = INTEGER: -70 So that may make things a bit more interesting trying to figure out how to poll/graph that information.
I haven't even tried beating on any of our AF24s yet, that'll be next.
...Ron
From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:49 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Adam,
I would love to see support for Airfiber and Ubiquiti Airmax radios too.
Thanks!
Keefe On 10/28/2014 8:34 PM, Justin Miller wrote: Adam,
Unfortunately I think the wireless ISPs have figured out how good this product is and you are only going to get more requests for this kind of thing.
When the time comes, I can make available wireless hardware for Ubiquiti AirFiber 24 ghz and 5 ghz links as well as Mikrotik point to point and point to multipoint links for use by the development team. (public ip snmp access) Also willing to lend wireless experience/explanations.
Ubuiquiti's snmp implementation on the AirFiber's are just wacky. Only traffic that the CPU processes shows under the usual interface spot i.e. management traffic. The traffic you actually want to see is in a whole other section. It's mostly because of the hardware structure of the radio with is dsp's and such.
Justin
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote:
The SNMP implementations and MIB structure on these wireless devices make me want to stab out my eyes.
We have some vague plans to try to work out some infrasdtructure to fit wireless kit into in the future, but none of us have any wireless experience, and each of the vendors seem to have approached the problem in (at least one) entirely different (and usually equally broken) manner, making it even harder to come up with a common schema.
At the moment there isn't a place to put bounties, mostly because it encourages people to expect major (and often ill-advised) changes for small amounts of money. ;)
adam.
------ Original Message ------ From: "Travis Kreikemeier" <travis@travko.commailto:travis@travko.com> To: "Observium Network Observation System" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Sent: 10/28/2014 10:54:05 AM Subject: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE's.
Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties?
Thanks
TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER
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I may be able to help with access to Cisco gear when the time is right. We've got WISM2s and various flavors of Aironet APs, both lightweight and autonomous, as well as experience querying them with SNMP for our own internal applications.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Justin Miller observium@dynstatic.net wrote:
Adam,
Unfortunately I think the wireless ISPs have figured out how good this product is and you are only going to get more requests for this kind of thing.
When the time comes, I can make available wireless hardware for Ubiquiti AirFiber 24 ghz and 5 ghz links as well as Mikrotik point to point and point to multipoint links for use by the development team. (public ip snmp access) Also willing to lend wireless experience/explanations.
Ubuiquiti’s snmp implementation on the AirFiber’s are just wacky. Only traffic that the CPU processes shows under the usual interface spot i.e. management traffic. The traffic you actually want to see is in a whole other section. It’s mostly because of the hardware structure of the radio with is dsp’s and such.
Justin
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
The SNMP implementations and MIB structure on these wireless devices make me want to stab out my eyes.
We have some vague plans to try to work out some infrasdtructure to fit wireless kit into in the future, but none of us have any wireless experience, and each of the vendors seem to have approached the problem in (at least one) entirely different (and usually equally broken) manner, making it even harder to come up with a common schema.
At the moment there isn't a place to put bounties, mostly because it encourages people to expect major (and often ill-advised) changes for small amounts of money. ;)
adam.
------ Original Message ------ From: "Travis Kreikemeier" travis@travko.com To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 10/28/2014 10:54:05 AM Subject: [Observium] Wireless signal graphs
Any plans to add wireless signal metric graphs to Observium? Such as signal strength and SNR. Example device being Cambium Canopy CPE’s.
Is there a place to put feature bounties and payments for completion bounties?
Thanks
*TRAVIS KREIKEMEIER*
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Adam Armstrong
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Fletcher Haynes
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Jeremy Lukan
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Justin Miller
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Keefe John
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Ron Marosko
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Travis Kreikemeier
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Zach Underwood