Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
_____________________________ Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
_____________________________
Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E.
IT Director
Magnusson Klemencic Associates
1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200
Seattle, WA 98101-2699
United States
Direct: +1 206 215 8365
Main: +1 206 292 1200
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_____________________________
OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
_____________________________ Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' observium@observium.org Cc: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
_____________________________ Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!)
In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured.
Adam.
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On 23 Apr 2019, 23:48, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" observium@observium.org wrote:
OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' observium@observium.org Cc: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
Thx
_____________________________ Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:19 PM To: 'Observium' observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!) In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14726&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7Cb9957e3dd2694fa6612d08d6c8421143%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C1%7C636916583438688474&sdata=P%2B91sDbWL%2FlOrKRjUJFzfFS7ljeq8cCLa6zj3wqoHmc%3D&reserved=0 On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
_____________________________ Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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Hi Adam,
I was going to look at adding more logging for this, but I'm not at home at the moment.
You should get some useful output by running the relevant modules in debug mode.
./discovery.php -h <host> -m neighbours -dd
Adam.
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On 1 May 2019, 17:38, at 17:38, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" observium@observium.org wrote:
Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
Thx
Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:19 PM To: 'Observium' observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!) In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14726&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7Cb9957e3dd2694fa6612d08d6c8421143%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C1%7C636916583438688474&sdata=P%2B91sDbWL%2FlOrKRjUJFzfFS7ljeq8cCLa6zj3wqoHmc%3D&reserved=0 On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
Adam Koczarski P.E., S.E. IT Director Magnusson Klemencic Associates 1301 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3200 Seattle, WA 98101-2699 United States Direct: +1 206 215 8365 Main: +1 206 292 1200
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
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I’m assuming the <host> in the command line you provided would be the neighboring switch to the one I’m trying to auto-discover? I ran that but didn’t get anything to useful.
The switch I’m trying to “auto-discovery” and auto-add to the Observium device list is plugged into port 1 of the switch shown below. Observium knowns the switch is there as the mac listed is correct. I’m hoping Observium would get this switches naming info via DNS and/or SNMP and populate the device list accordingly. If I manually add this new switch to the Observium devices the name will eventually show up here.
I’m close, but no quite there. We’ll be adding 60 new switches shortly and am hoping to get this working first…..
Thx!
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From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:09 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi Adam, I was going to look at adding more logging for this, but I'm not at home at the moment. You should get some useful output by running the relevant modules in debug mode. ./discovery.php -h <host> -m neighbours -dd Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14874&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7C7d8c7d64e34545905ac408d6ce57bce6%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C0%7C636923273577495422&sdata=rcpbGg93WyJdZGNvIMSh5n5qkpKR4%2FyuP5OD0KzsW7U%3D&reserved=0 On 1 May 2019, at 17:38, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
Thx
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:19 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!) In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14726&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7Cb9957e3dd2694fa6612d08d6c8421143%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C1%7C636916583438688474&sdata=P%2B91sDbWL%2FlOrKRjUJFzfFS7ljeq8cCLa6zj3wqoHmc%3D&reserved=0 On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
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Hmm.
This device seems to be returning a Mac address, which isn't overly useful for discovery.
Adam.
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On 1 May 2019, 19:07, at 19:07, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" observium@observium.org wrote:
I’m assuming the <host> in the command line you provided would be the neighboring switch to the one I’m trying to auto-discover? I ran that but didn’t get anything to useful.
The switch I’m trying to “auto-discovery” and auto-add to the Observium device list is plugged into port 1 of the switch shown below. Observium knowns the switch is there as the mac listed is correct. I’m hoping Observium would get this switches naming info via DNS and/or SNMP and populate the device list accordingly. If I manually add this new switch to the Observium devices the name will eventually show up here.
I’m close, but no quite there. We’ll be adding 60 new switches shortly and am hoping to get this working first…..
Thx!
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From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:09 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi Adam, I was going to look at adding more logging for this, but I'm not at home at the moment. You should get some useful output by running the relevant modules in debug mode. ./discovery.php -h <host> -m neighbours -dd Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14874&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7C7d8c7d64e34545905ac408d6ce57bce6%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C0%7C636923273577495422&sdata=rcpbGg93WyJdZGNvIMSh5n5qkpKR4%2FyuP5OD0KzsW7U%3D&reserved=0 On 1 May 2019, at 17:38, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
Thx
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:19 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!) In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14726&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7Cb9957e3dd2694fa6612d08d6c8421143%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C1%7C636916583438688474&sdata=P%2B91sDbWL%2FlOrKRjUJFzfFS7ljeq8cCLa6zj3wqoHmc%3D&reserved=0 On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
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I built a new Observium server using Ubuntu ver 16.x rather than 18.x and auto-discovery is starting to populate the devices list! I manually added a core switch and it’s MLAG partner and my distribution switches have appeared. The switches beyond the distribution switches have yet to appear in the devices list. Maybe that just takes time? They are just showing macs like in my last message. Progress….
Perhaps the addition of Netplan and systemd-networkd in Ubuntu 18.x DNS/resolv is the culprit on my first try at this??
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From: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:38 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hmm. This device seems to be returning a Mac address, which isn't overly useful for discovery. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14874&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7C6f2df53ee4404722498b08d6ce642733%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C0%7C636923326910316767&sdata=nQs2hw60gBCLMu0YA8cumZLzvfGac55Y7GO%2BLh1hXZM%3D&reserved=0 On 1 May 2019, at 19:07, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: I’m assuming the <host> in the command line you provided would be the neighboring switch to the one I’m trying to auto-discover? I ran that but didn’t get anything to useful.
The switch I’m trying to “auto-discovery” and auto-add to the Observium device list is plugged into port 1 of the switch shown below. Observium knowns the switch is there as the mac listed is correct. I’m hoping Observium would get this switches naming info via DNS and/or SNMP and populate the device list accordingly. If I manually add this new switch to the Observium devices the name will eventually show up here.
I’m close, but no quite there. We’ll be adding 60 new switches shortly and am hoping to get this working first…..
Thx!
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:09 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi Adam, I was going to look at adding more logging for this, but I'm not at home at the moment. You should get some useful output by running the relevant modules in debug mode. ./discovery.php -h <host> -m neighbours -dd Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14874&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7C7d8c7d64e34545905ac408d6ce57bce6%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C0%7C636923273577495422&sdata=rcpbGg93WyJdZGNvIMSh5n5qkpKR4%2FyuP5OD0KzsW7U%3D&reserved=0 On 1 May 2019, at 17:38, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
Thx
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:19 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!) In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14726&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7Cb9957e3dd2694fa6612d08d6c8421143%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C1%7C636916583438688474&sdata=P%2B91sDbWL%2FlOrKRjUJFzfFS7ljeq8cCLa6zj3wqoHmc%3D&reserved=0 On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
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I take it all back. Ubuntu 18.x and system-networkd was not the issue here. DNS was not the issue either. My issues were with LLDP related settings and not having everything configured properly. We have a mix of Extreme and Netgear switches and once the LLDP settings were properly configured everything began to hum on both the Ubuntu 16.x and 18.x based Observium servers.
Thanks for the help….
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I built a new Observium server using Ubuntu ver 16.x rather than 18.x and auto-discovery is starting to populate the devices list! I manually added a core switch and it’s MLAG partner and my distribution switches have appeared. The switches beyond the distribution switches have yet to appear in the devices list. Maybe that just takes time? They are just showing macs like in my last message. Progress….
Perhaps the addition of Netplan and systemd-networkd in Ubuntu 18.x DNS/resolv is the culprit on my first try at this??
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Hmm. This device seems to be returning a Mac address, which isn't overly useful for discovery. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14874&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7C6f2df53ee4404722498b08d6ce642733%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C0%7C636923326910316767&sdata=nQs2hw60gBCLMu0YA8cumZLzvfGac55Y7GO%2BLh1hXZM%3D&reserved=0 On 1 May 2019, at 19:07, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: I’m assuming the <host> in the command line you provided would be the neighboring switch to the one I’m trying to auto-discover? I ran that but didn’t get anything to useful.
The switch I’m trying to “auto-discovery” and auto-add to the Observium device list is plugged into port 1 of the switch shown below. Observium knowns the switch is there as the mac listed is correct. I’m hoping Observium would get this switches naming info via DNS and/or SNMP and populate the device list accordingly. If I manually add this new switch to the Observium devices the name will eventually show up here.
I’m close, but no quite there. We’ll be adding 60 new switches shortly and am hoping to get this working first…..
Thx!
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:09 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi Adam, I was going to look at adding more logging for this, but I'm not at home at the moment. You should get some useful output by running the relevant modules in debug mode. ./discovery.php -h <host> -m neighbours -dd Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14874&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7C7d8c7d64e34545905ac408d6ce57bce6%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C0%7C636923273577495422&sdata=rcpbGg93WyJdZGNvIMSh5n5qkpKR4%2FyuP5OD0KzsW7U%3D&reserved=0 On 1 May 2019, at 17:38, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
Thx
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:19 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!) In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured. Adam. Sent from BlueMailhttps://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bluemail.me%2Fr%3Fb%3D14726&data=02%7C01%7Cakoczarski%40mka.com%7Cb9957e3dd2694fa6612d08d6c8421143%7Cd9cae93b10204a06b77fb9b55a3235d5%7C0%7C1%7C636916583438688474&sdata=P%2B91sDbWL%2FlOrKRjUJFzfFS7ljeq8cCLa6zj3wqoHmc%3D&reserved=0 On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
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Funny thing about network devices, they only do what they are configured to do. Due to security recommendations, by default, LLDP is disabled. Once it is enabled, it works fantastically.
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 9:46 AM adama--- via observium < observium@observium.org> wrote:
What did you have to change?
Adam.
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I take it all back. Ubuntu 18.x and system-networkd was not the issue here. DNS was not the issue either. My issues were with LLDP related settings and not having everything configured properly. We have a mix of Extreme and Netgear switches and once the LLDP settings were properly configured everything began to hum on both the Ubuntu 16.x and 18.x based Observium servers.
Thanks for the help….
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*From:* observium observium-bounces@observium.org *On Behalf Of *Adam R. Koczarski via observium *Sent:* Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:51 AM *To:* Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org; Adam R. Koczarski via observium observium@observium.org *Cc:* Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com *Subject:* Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
I built a new Observium server using Ubuntu ver 16.x rather than 18.x and auto-discovery is starting to populate the devices list! I manually added a core switch and it’s MLAG partner and my distribution switches have appeared. The switches beyond the distribution switches have yet to appear in the devices list. Maybe that just takes time? They are just showing macs like in my last message. Progress….
Perhaps the addition of Netplan and systemd-networkd in Ubuntu 18.x DNS/resolv is the culprit on my first try at this??
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Hmm.
This device seems to be returning a Mac address, which isn't overly useful for discovery.
Adam.
On 1 May 2019, at 19:07, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" < observium@observium.org> wrote:
I’m assuming the <host> in the command line you provided would be the neighboring switch to the one I’m trying to auto-discover? I ran that but didn’t get anything to useful.
The switch I’m trying to “auto-discovery” and auto-add to the Observium device list is plugged into port 1 of the switch shown below. Observium knowns the switch is there as the mac listed is correct. I’m hoping Observium would get this switches naming info via DNS and/or SNMP and populate the device list accordingly. If I manually add this new switch to the Observium devices the name will eventually show up here.
I’m close, but no quite there. We’ll be adding 60 new switches shortly and am hoping to get this working first…..
Thx!
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*From:* Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org *Sent:* Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:09 AM *To:* Adam R. Koczarski via observium observium@observium.org *Cc:* Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com *Subject:* Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi Adam,
I was going to look at adding more logging for this, but I'm not at home at the moment.
You should get some useful output by running the relevant modules in debug mode.
./discovery.php -h <host> -m neighbours -dd
Adam.
On 1 May 2019, at 17:38, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" < observium@observium.org> wrote:
Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
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It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!)
In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured.
Adam.
On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" < observium@observium.org> wrote:
OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
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*From:* observium observium-bounces@observium.org *On Behalf Of *Adam Armstrong via observium *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM *To:* 'Observium' observium@observium.org *Cc:* Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org *Subject:* Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
*From:* observium observium-bounces@observium.org *On Behalf Of *Adam R. Koczarski via observium *Sent:* 23 April 2019 22:36 *To:* Observium observium@observium.org *Cc:* Adam R. Koczarski akoczarski@mka.com *Subject:* [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
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In the case of our Netgear GS108T edge/pod switches it was enabling ‘Notification’ and ‘Optional TLVs’ in the advanced settings as shown below. I <thought> the settings under ‘Basic’ were enough to enable LLDP as neighbor relations were displaying if I manually added these switches to Observium. We’ve been an Extreme shop until recently and I’m still learning the nuances of these Netgear switches. I’m also new to Observium.
As for the Extreme core and distribution switches I’m not sure why they are now being auto-discovered?? It could be that I <had> a DNS issue early on and corrected it during this process?? I didn’t change any LLDP related settings on the Extremes and had manually added these switches a couple of weeks ago. I’ve been focused on getting the Netgear equipment to auto-discover since we will be deploying about 70 of them. Too many variables now to be sure now….
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From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of adama--- via observium Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 7:46 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium observium@observium.org Cc: adama@memetic.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
What did you have to change?
Adam.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery From: "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" To: Observium ,Adam Armstrong CC: "Adam R. Koczarski"
I take it all back. Ubuntu 18.x and system-networkd was not the issue here. DNS was not the issue either. My issues were with LLDP related settings and not having everything configured properly. We have a mix of Extreme and Netgear switches and once the LLDP settings were properly configured everything began to hum on both the Ubuntu 16.x and 18.x based Observium servers.
Thanks for the help….
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:51 AM To: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org>; Adam R. Koczarski via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
I built a new Observium server using Ubuntu ver 16.x rather than 18.x and auto-discovery is starting to populate the devices list! I manually added a core switch and it’s MLAG partner and my distribution switches have appeared. The switches beyond the distribution switches have yet to appear in the devices list. Maybe that just takes time? They are just showing macs like in my last message. Progress….
Perhaps the addition of Netplan and systemd-networkd in Ubuntu 18.x DNS/resolv is the culprit on my first try at this??
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 11:38 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hmm.
This device seems to be returning a Mac address, which isn't overly useful for discovery.
Adam.
On 1 May 2019, at 19:07, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
I’m assuming the <host> in the command line you provided would be the neighboring switch to the one I’m trying to auto-discover? I ran that but didn’t get anything to useful.
The switch I’m trying to “auto-discovery” and auto-add to the Observium device list is plugged into port 1 of the switch shown below. Observium knowns the switch is there as the mac listed is correct. I’m hoping Observium would get this switches naming info via DNS and/or SNMP and populate the device list accordingly. If I manually add this new switch to the Observium devices the name will eventually show up here.
I’m close, but no quite there. We’ll be adding 60 new switches shortly and am hoping to get this working first…..
Thx!
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 10:09 AM To: Adam R. Koczarski via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi Adam,
I was going to look at adding more logging for this, but I'm not at home at the moment.
You should get some useful output by running the relevant modules in debug mode.
./discovery.php -h <host> -m neighbours -dd
Adam.
On 1 May 2019, at 17:38, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
Does anyone know if there any way I can get the logging tweaked up to include any device auto-discovery info to help debug this? I’ve scanned through the logs in /opt/Observium/logs and didn’t find anything useful.
Thx
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From: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:19 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
It has a few prerequisites, and isn't really well documented at the moment (and there are likely changes that I don't know about, too!)
In general things will be autodiscovered if they're seen by CDP/lldp/etc or ospf and if DNS is correctly configured.
Adam.
On 23 Apr 2019, at 23:48, "Adam R. Koczarski via observium" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
OK, so it is possible. Great! I haven’t been able to have devices automatically get added to the devices list yet, but I’d like it to operate that way.
I have a some switch named mkas0001 and mkas0002 in SNMP. I can ping mkas0001 and mkas0001.mka.com, yet the switches never automatically populate into the device list. Dig for mkas0001 does require +search be appended to the command. I wonder if the SNMP names need to be fully qualified?? I didn’t try that.
Under Network-SNMP I have v2c specified as the version to use and have specified the community name. I don’t have OSPF neighbors enabled under Device Autodiscovery. Maybe another thing to try.
Thanks for the confirmation and ideas! Greatly appreciated!!
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From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:24 PM To: 'Observium' <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hi,
There are a few autodiscovery mechanisms, most use a discovery protocol like CDP/LLDP or rely on OSPF.
It’s a bit picky about what it’ll discover, it likes the device’s sysName returned from SNMP to be resolvable in DNS, to cut down on duplication and false positives.
You should be able to enable it in the configuration settings for autodiscovery.
Adam.
From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Adam R. Koczarski via observium Sent: 23 April 2019 22:36 To: Observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Adam R. Koczarski <akoczarski@mka.commailto:akoczarski@mka.com> Subject: [Observium] Auto Discovery
Hello,
I’m new to this group and to Observium. A friend turned me on to it a few weeks ago.
I have Observium 19.3.9774 running on Ubuntu 18.04.2LTS. Everything is working great! I’ve added my switches and LLDP and SNMP data is flowing in and all of the cross-references have been established.
My question pertains to adding new devices. I can successfully add new devices via the GUI or the CLI as described in the documentation. My friend was telling me he <thinks> devices can be detected and added to the device list automatically via some sort of discovery?? Is this a thing or is he pulling my leg?
Thanks!
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