Hello,

On 2012-09-24 20:47:27 +0100, Paul Cupis said:

On 24/09/12 20:02, Andrey Lebedev wrote:

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Sorry.

1. Offtopic. I unfortunately do not get your answers via mail. And look

at them through http://postman.memetic.org/pipermail/observium/2012-September/thread.html

How do I reply to this thread - but do not start a new topic every time? I have long lost touch (and forgotten) how to use mailing lists - last it was 10 years ago.

You can subscribe to the mailing list from:

http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

Before - yes.

Or try one of the interfaces at:

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.network.observium.general

such as the NNTP interface (News Reader)?

Thanks! Idea use NNTP client - it's best.

...

2. For monitoring unix servers use snmp?

I do not understand a bit - but then why in wiki talk about the unix-agent. I saw that to unix-agent in any way no related to snmp. In my look this product have a lot of undocumented features that are unclear how they work.

Add an SNMP server to the server, and use both SNMP and unix-agent to get a large amount of monitoring of the server.

So depending on the OS (this is for Debian):

• apt-get install snmpd
• create /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf:

sysLocation Wherever sysContact Some One root@example.com rocommunity secret 192.0.2.0/24

• /etc/init.d/snmpd restart

Thanks!! It's way work.

(hmm, I think that is all...)

Regards,

On 25/09/12 11:08, Andrey Lebedev wrote:

+1 question: How to enable "Services" for Servers ?

Good question, I suspect the "Services" monitoring (i.e. is a port open, is DNS running) may have been removed - most people will use nagios or similar for this I guess.

Adam may be able to confirm?

Regards,

On 25/09/12 21:24, Andrey Lebedev wrote:

It sounds very strange. On the one hand there is unix-agent, and things like that. Very strange. Why do I need nagios, when I already have observium. I was planning remove nagios.

Well nagios and observium are trying to solve different problems.

From the observium homepage:

"Observium is not intended to replace an up/down alerting system, but rather to complement it with an easy to manage, intuitive representation of historical and current performance statistics, configuration visualisation and syslog capture."

Regards,

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Andrey Lebedev alg@condensa.ru wrote:

On 2012-09-25 21:45:12 +0100, Paul Cupis said:

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"Observium is not intended to replace an up/down alerting system, but rather to complement it with an easy to manage, intuitive representation of historical and current performance statistics, configuration visualisation and syslog capture."

Do not see any logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor IMHO.

But observium is preferd for me (over nagios or zabbix).

I prefer my car, but that doesn't mean I'm going to use it to open a can of beans. I use the tool that's designed to do what I want, reliably. And if the creators of the software say it's not meant to be used for service monitoring I'm going to take their word for it.

On 26/09/2012 0:22, Andrey Lebedev wrote:

Hmm ... interesting that the author wanted to say a demo of their product. Maybe this is a joke? http://demo.observium.org/device/device=34/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/device/device=7/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/device/device=6/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/ kermit Service Down ssh

It's no "service monitoring"? Ok. :)

If you know how to use a browser, why did it not bring you to http://www.observium.org/wiki/Services ?

More specifically, check the disclaimer at the top. By all means, use a car to open a can of beans though - I'd like to see it on youtube :-)

Tom

On 26/09/2012 0:38, Andrey Lebedev wrote:

Tell us how you found it?

http://www.observium.org/wiki/Documentation - nothing http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page - link to Professional Services http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page -> search -> word "Services" -> appropriate page

But. Thanks! I'm find it.

The last one, indeed. It's not linked anywhere because it's deprecated, unsupported and buggy.

Tom