Hi all,
Sorry. 1) Offtopic. I unfortunately do not get your answers via mail. And look at them through http://postman.memetic.org/pipermail/observium/2012-September/thread.html
How do I reply to this thread - but do not start a new topic every time? I have long lost touch (and forgotten) how to use mailing lists - last it was 10 years ago.
2) For monitoring unix servers use snmp? I do not understand a bit - but then why in wiki talk about the unix- agent. I saw that to unix-agent in any way no related to snmp. In my look this product have a lot of undocumented features that are unclear how they work.
Regards, Andrey
On 24/09/12 20:02, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
Sorry.
- Offtopic. I unfortunately do not get your answers via mail. And look
at them through http://postman.memetic.org/pipermail/observium/2012-September/thread.html
How do I reply to this thread - but do not start a new topic every time? I have long lost touch (and forgotten) how to use mailing lists - last it was 10 years ago.
You can subscribe to the mailing list from:
http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Or try one of the interfaces at:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.network.observium.general
such as the NNTP interface (News Reader)?
- For monitoring unix servers use snmp?
I do not understand a bit - but then why in wiki talk about the unix-agent. I saw that to unix-agent in any way no related to snmp. In my look this product have a lot of undocumented features that are unclear how they work.
Add an SNMP server to the server, and use both SNMP and unix-agent to get a large amount of monitoring of the server.
So depending on the OS (this is for Debian):
* apt-get install snmpd * create /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf:
sysLocation Wherever sysContact Some One root@example.com rocommunity secret 192.0.2.0/24
* /etc/init.d/snmpd restart
(hmm, I think that is all...)
Regards,
Hello,
On 2012-09-24 20:47:27 +0100, Paul Cupis said:
On 24/09/12 20:02, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
Sorry.
- Offtopic. I unfortunately do not get your answers via mail. And look
at them through http://postman.memetic.org/pipermail/observium/2012-September/thread.html
How do I reply to this thread - but do not start a new topic every time? I have long lost touch (and forgotten) how to use mailing lists - last it was 10 years ago.
You can subscribe to the mailing list from:
http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Before - yes.
Or try one of the interfaces at:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.network.observium.general
such as the NNTP interface (News Reader)?
Thanks! Idea use NNTP client - it's best.
- For monitoring unix servers use snmp?
I do not understand a bit - but then why in wiki talk about the unix-agent. I saw that to unix-agent in any way no related to snmp. In my look this product have a lot of undocumented features that are unclear how they work.
Add an SNMP server to the server, and use both SNMP and unix-agent to get a large amount of monitoring of the server.
So depending on the OS (this is for Debian):
- apt-get install snmpd
- create /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf:
sysLocation Wherever sysContact Some One root@example.com rocommunity secret 192.0.2.0/24
- /etc/init.d/snmpd restart
Thanks!! It's way work.
(hmm, I think that is all...)
Regards,
Thanks for help.
+1 question: How to enable "Services" for Servers ? Overview | Devices | Services | Location .... http://www.observium.org/wiki/Collectd_Integration
Regards, Andrey
On 2012-09-24 20:47:27 +0100, Paul Cupis said:
On 24/09/12 20:02, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
Sorry.
- Offtopic. I unfortunately do not get your answers via mail. And look
at them through http://postman.memetic.org/pipermail/observium/2012-September/thread.html
How do I reply to this thread - but do not start a new topic every time? I have long lost touch (and forgotten) how to use mailing lists - last it was 10 years ago.
You can subscribe to the mailing list from:
http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Or try one of the interfaces at:
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.network.observium.general
such as the NNTP interface (News Reader)?
- For monitoring unix servers use snmp?
I do not understand a bit - but then why in wiki talk about the unix-agent. I saw that to unix-agent in any way no related to snmp. In my look this product have a lot of undocumented features that are unclear how they work.
Add an SNMP server to the server, and use both SNMP and unix-agent to get a large amount of monitoring of the server.
So depending on the OS (this is for Debian):
- apt-get install snmpd
- create /etc/snmp/snmpd.local.conf:
sysLocation Wherever sysContact Some One root@example.com rocommunity secret 192.0.2.0/24
- /etc/init.d/snmpd restart
(hmm, I think that is all...)
Regards,
On 25/09/12 11:08, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
+1 question: How to enable "Services" for Servers ?
Good question, I suspect the "Services" monitoring (i.e. is a port open, is DNS running) may have been removed - most people will use nagios or similar for this I guess.
Adam may be able to confirm?
Regards,
On 2012-09-25 20:40:12 +0100, Paul Cupis said:
Good question, I suspect the "Services" monitoring (i.e. is a port open, is DNS running) may have been removed - most people will use nagios or similar for this I guess.
Adam may be able to confirm?
It sounds very strange. On the one hand there is unix-agent, and things like that. Very strange. Why do I need nagios, when I already have observium. I was planning remove nagios.
On 25/09/12 21:24, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
It sounds very strange. On the one hand there is unix-agent, and things like that. Very strange. Why do I need nagios, when I already have observium. I was planning remove nagios.
Well nagios and observium are trying to solve different problems.
From the observium homepage:
"Observium is not intended to replace an up/down alerting system, but rather to complement it with an easy to manage, intuitive representation of historical and current performance statistics, configuration visualisation and syslog capture."
Regards,
On 2012-09-25 21:45:12 +0100, Paul Cupis said:
"Observium is not intended to replace an up/down alerting system, but rather to complement it with an easy to manage, intuitive representation of historical and current performance statistics, configuration visualisation and syslog capture."
Do not see any logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor IMHO.
But observium is preferd for me (over nagios or zabbix).
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Andrey Lebedev alg@condensa.ru wrote:
On 2012-09-25 21:45:12 +0100, Paul Cupis said:
"Observium is not intended to replace an up/down alerting system, but rather to complement it with an easy to manage, intuitive representation of historical and current performance statistics, configuration visualisation and syslog capture."
Do not see any logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor IMHO.
But observium is preferd for me (over nagios or zabbix).
I prefer my car, but that doesn't mean I'm going to use it to open a can of beans. I use the tool that's designed to do what I want, reliably. And if the creators of the software say it's not meant to be used for service monitoring I'm going to take their word for it.
On 2012-09-25 23:05:51 +0100, John Broome said:
I prefer my car, but that doesn't mean I'm going to use it to open a can of beans. I use the tool that's designed to do what I want, reliably. And if the creators of the software say it's not meant to be used for service monitoring I'm going to take their word for it.
Hmm ... interesting that the author wanted to say a demo of their product. Maybe this is a joke? http://demo.observium.org/device/device=34/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/device/device=7/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/device/device=6/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/ kermit Service Down ssh
It's no "service monitoring"? Ok. :)
On 26/09/2012 0:22, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
Hmm ... interesting that the author wanted to say a demo of their product. Maybe this is a joke? http://demo.observium.org/device/device=34/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/device/device=7/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/device/device=6/tab=services/ http://demo.observium.org/ kermit Service Down ssh
It's no "service monitoring"? Ok. :)
If you know how to use a browser, why did it not bring you to http://www.observium.org/wiki/Services ?
More specifically, check the disclaimer at the top. By all means, use a car to open a can of beans though - I'd like to see it on youtube :-)
Tom
On 2012-09-25 23:25:26 +0100, Tom Laermans said:
Thanks!
Tell us how you found it?
http://www.observium.org/wiki/Documentation - nothing http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page - link to Professional Services http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page -> search -> word "Services" -> appropriate page
But. Thanks! I'm find it.
Regards, Andrey
On 26/09/2012 0:38, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
Tell us how you found it?
http://www.observium.org/wiki/Documentation - nothing http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page - link to Professional Services http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page -> search -> word "Services" -> appropriate page
But. Thanks! I'm find it.
The last one, indeed. It's not linked anywhere because it's deprecated, unsupported and buggy.
Tom
On 2012-09-25 23:41:31 +0100, Tom Laermans said:
On 26/09/2012 0:38, Andrey Lebedev wrote:
Tell us how you found it?
http://www.observium.org/wiki/Documentation - nothing http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page - link to Professional Services http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page -> search -> word "Services" -> appropriate page
But. Thanks! I'm find it.
The last one, indeed. It's not linked anywhere because it's deprecated, unsupported and buggy.
Tom
Annoying. But I think I can cope without this feature. Once again I want to say - this is a good product, but it is not very good documentation. However - it's "as is". Thank all for your help. And clarifications.
Andrey
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