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Hi All
I’m just wondering if the is a way in observium to monitor the number of active users in Hotspot on Mikrotik switches?
ive browsed there MIB - http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib and ive come across the MIB for mtxrHotspotActiveUsersTable
the objectID is .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1
a sample of the output for a single user is
SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.2.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3.3232250549 = STRING: "kitenmason@aol.com" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.4.3232250549 = "" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.5.3232250549 = IpAddress: 192.168.58.181 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.6.3232250549 = Hex-STRING: 60 A3 7D 9F EF F0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.7.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1243 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.8.3232250549 = INTEGER: 147576 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.9.3232250549 = INTEGER: 269 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.10.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.11.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.12.3232250549 = Counter64: 7383223 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.13.3232250549 = Counter64: 12105744 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.14.3232250549 = Counter64: 16306 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.15.3232250549 = Counter64: 15028 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.16.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.17.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.18.3232250549 = INTEGER: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.19.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.20.3232250549 = INTEGER: 2 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.21.3232250549 = Counter64: 0
also attached is an output using ManageEngine MIB broswer of the full text and info
can someone add it into observium?
or is it possible i can do it myself with something called custom oid i found in the options?
regards
Simon
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You might find it easier if you do walks with the MIBs loaded... :D
Customoid won't help you "count" entries in a table.
Is there not an oid which gives you a total?
Adam.
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On May 3, 2016, 19:16, at 19:16, Simon Smith simonsmith5521@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All
I’m just wondering if the is a way in observium to monitor the number of active users in Hotspot on Mikrotik switches?
ive browsed there MIB - http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib and ive come across the MIB for mtxrHotspotActiveUsersTable
the objectID is .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1
a sample of the output for a single user is
SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.2.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3.3232250549 = STRING: "kitenmason@aol.com" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.4.3232250549 = "" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.5.3232250549 = IpAddress: 192.168.58.181 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.6.3232250549 = Hex-STRING: 60 A3 7D 9F EF F0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.7.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1243 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.8.3232250549 = INTEGER: 147576 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.9.3232250549 = INTEGER: 269 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.10.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.11.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.12.3232250549 = Counter64: 7383223 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.13.3232250549 = Counter64: 12105744 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.14.3232250549 = Counter64: 16306 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.15.3232250549 = Counter64: 15028 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.16.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.17.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.18.3232250549 = INTEGER: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.19.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.20.3232250549 = INTEGER: 2 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.21.3232250549 = Counter64: 0
also attached is an output using ManageEngine MIB broswer of the full text and info
can someone add it into observium?
or is it possible i can do it myself with something called custom oid i found in the options?
regards
Simon
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Sadly the isn’t an oid to give you a total which i must say is abit silly, maybe ill ask on the forums see if they can add it into an update :(
all you can do is call the oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1
and then instead of sub snmpwalking to get the extra data like group, ip, mac, etc,
you count the replys of one of the values, maybe the username oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3
that would show you the number of active users
Simon
On 4 May 2016, at 11:52 am, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
You might find it easier if you do walks with the MIBs loaded... :D
Customoid won't help you "count" entries in a table.
Is there not an oid which gives you a total?
Adam.
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On May 3, 2016, at 19:16, Simon Smith <simonsmith5521@gmail.com mailto:simonsmith5521@gmail.com> wrote: Hi All
I’m just wondering if the is a way in observium to monitor the number of active users in Hotspot on Mikrotik switches?
ive browsed there MIB - http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib and ive come across the MIB for mtxrHotspotActiveUsersTable
the objectID is .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1
a sample of the output for a single user is
SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.2.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3.3232250549 = STRING: "kitenmason@aol.com mailto:kitenmason@aol.com" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.4.3232250549 = "" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.5.3232250549 = IpAddress: 192.168.58.181 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.6.3232250549 = Hex-STRING: 60 A3 7D 9F EF F0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.7.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1243 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.8.3232250549 = INTEGER: 147576 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.9.3232250549 = INTEGER: 269 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.10.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.11.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.12.3232250549 = Counter64: 7383223 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.13.3232250549 = Counter64: 12105744 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.14.3232250549 = Counter64: 16306 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.15.3232250549 = Counter64: 15028 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.16.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.17.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.18.3232250549 = INTEGER: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.19.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.20.3232250549 = INTEGER: 2 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.21.3232250549 = Counter64: 0
also attached is an output using ManageEngine MIB broswer of the full text and info
can someone add it into observium?
or is it possible i can do it myself with something called custom oid i found in the options?
regards
Simon
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You could do this as a graph poller, walk the table, count the entries in the array and dump that to an rrd. Ugly, but would draw you a line :)
adam.
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all you can do is call the oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1
and then instead of sub snmpwalking to get the extra data like group, ip, mac, etc,
you count the replys of one of the values, maybe the username oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3
that would show you the number of active users
Simon
On 4 May 2016, at 11:52 am, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> wrote:
You might find it easier if you do walks with the MIBs loaded... :D Customoid won't help you "count" entries in a table. Is there not an oid which gives you a total? Adam. Sent from BlueMail [http://www.bluemail.me/r]
On May 3, 2016, at 19:16, Simon Smith <simonsmith5521@gmail.com [mailto:simonsmith5521@gmail.com]> wrote: Hi All
I’m just wondering if the is a way in observium to monitor the number of active users in Hotspot on Mikrotik switches?
ive browsed there MIB - http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib [http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib] and ive come across the MIB for mtxrHotspotActiveUsersTable
the objectID is .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1
a sample of the output for a single user is
SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.2.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3.3232250549 = STRING: "kitenmason@aol.com [mailto:kitenmason@aol.com]" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.4.3232250549 = "" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.5.3232250549 = IpAddress: 192.168.58.181 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.6.3232250549 = Hex-STRING: 60 A3 7D 9F EF F0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.7.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1243 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.8.3232250549 = INTEGER: 147576 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.9.3232250549 = INTEGER: 269 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.10.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.11.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.12.3232250549 = Counter64: 7383223 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.13.3232250549 = Counter64: 12105744 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.14.3232250549 = Counter64: 16306 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.15.3232250549 = Counter64: 15028 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.16.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.17.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.18.3232250549 = INTEGER: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.19.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.20.3232250549 = INTEGER: 2 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.21.3232250549 = Counter64: 0
also attached is an output using ManageEngine MIB broswer of the full text and info
can someone add it into observium?
or is it possible i can do it myself with something called custom oid i found in the options?
regards
Simon
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And by the table, I mean a single oid in it!
adam.
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adam.
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all you can do is call the oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1
and then instead of sub snmpwalking to get the extra data like group, ip, mac, etc,
you count the replys of one of the values, maybe the username oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3
that would show you the number of active users
Simon
On 4 May 2016, at 11:52 am, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> wrote:
You might find it easier if you do walks with the MIBs loaded... :D Customoid won't help you "count" entries in a table. Is there not an oid which gives you a total? Adam. Sent from BlueMail [http://www.bluemail.me/r]
On May 3, 2016, at 19:16, Simon Smith <simonsmith5521@gmail.com [mailto:simonsmith5521@gmail.com]> wrote: Hi All
I’m just wondering if the is a way in observium to monitor the number of active users in Hotspot on Mikrotik switches?
ive browsed there MIB - http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib [http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib] and ive come across the MIB for mtxrHotspotActiveUsersTable
the objectID is .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1
a sample of the output for a single user is
SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.2.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3.3232250549 = STRING: "kitenmason@aol.com [mailto:kitenmason@aol.com]" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.4.3232250549 = "" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.5.3232250549 = IpAddress: 192.168.58.181 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.6.3232250549 = Hex-STRING: 60 A3 7D 9F EF F0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.7.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1243 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.8.3232250549 = INTEGER: 147576 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.9.3232250549 = INTEGER: 269 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.10.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.11.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.12.3232250549 = Counter64: 7383223 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.13.3232250549 = Counter64: 12105744 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.14.3232250549 = Counter64: 16306 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.15.3232250549 = Counter64: 15028 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.16.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.17.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.18.3232250549 = INTEGER: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.19.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.20.3232250549 = INTEGER: 2 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.21.3232250549 = Counter64: 0
also attached is an output using ManageEngine MIB broswer of the full text and info
can someone add it into observium?
or is it possible i can do it myself with something called custom oid i found in the options?
regards
Simon
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well some good news
I found a value :D
http://mail.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/2010-March/002188.html
http://oid-info.com/get/1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.150.1.1.1.0 - the value relates to the ciscoAAASessionMIB
.1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.150.1.1.1.0
OR
http://mail.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/2010-March/002187.html
and you WALK the value and count how many to get a number :)
Simon
On 4 May 2016, at 1:59 pm, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
And by the table, I mean a single oid in it!
adam.
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You could do this as a graph poller, walk the table, count the entries in the array and dump that to an rrd. Ugly, but would draw you a line :)
adam.
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Sadly the isn’t an oid to give you a total which i must say is abit silly, maybe ill ask on the forums see if they can add it into an update :(
all you can do is call the oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1
and then instead of sub snmpwalking to get the extra data like group, ip, mac, etc,
you count the replys of one of the values, maybe the username oid .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3
that would show you the number of active users
Simon
On 4 May 2016, at 11:52 am, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote:
You might find it easier if you do walks with the MIBs loaded... :D
Customoid won't help you "count" entries in a table.
Is there not an oid which gives you a total?
Adam.
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On May 3, 2016, at 19:16, Simon Smith <simonsmith5521@gmail.com mailto:simonsmith5521@gmail.com> wrote: Hi All
I’m just wondering if the is a way in observium to monitor the number of active users in Hotspot on Mikrotik switches?
ive browsed there MIB - http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib http://download2.mikrotik.com/Mikrotik.mib and ive come across the MIB for mtxrHotspotActiveUsersTable
the objectID is .1.3.6.1.4.1.14988.1.1.5.1
a sample of the output for a single user is
SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.2.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.3.3232250549 = STRING: "kitenmason@aol.com mailto:kitenmason@aol.com" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.4.3232250549 = "" SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.5.3232250549 = IpAddress: 192.168.58.181 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.6.3232250549 = Hex-STRING: 60 A3 7D 9F EF F0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.7.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1243 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.8.3232250549 = INTEGER: 147576 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.9.3232250549 = INTEGER: 269 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.10.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.11.3232250549 = INTEGER: 300 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.12.3232250549 = Counter64: 7383223 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.13.3232250549 = Counter64: 12105744 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.14.3232250549 = Counter64: 16306 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.15.3232250549 = Counter64: 15028 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.16.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.17.3232250549 = Counter64: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.18.3232250549 = INTEGER: 0 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.19.3232250549 = INTEGER: 1 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.20.3232250549 = INTEGER: 2 SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14988.1.1.5.1.1.21.3232250549 = Counter64: 0
also attached is an output using ManageEngine MIB broswer of the full text and info
can someone add it into observium?
or is it possible i can do it myself with something called custom oid i found in the options?
regards
Simon
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