Hi, I'm looking for a way to reverse in and out position in port graphs. That is, display positive values for outbound, and negative ones for inbound. It can be interesting for a CDN, which mostly send its data to other ASes (booooo ! ;] )
I found a variable "$inverse" which *seems* to do what I want to do :
/opt/observium 0 # grep --exclude-dir=".svn" -n -r "$inverse" html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_data.inc.php:48: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_bits.inc.php:39: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_data.inc.php:28:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:17: if (strstr($inverse, "a")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:37: if (strstr($inverse, "b")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:57: if (strstr($inverse, "c")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_duo.inc.php:45:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; }
But setting it to true does not seem to change anything.
Am I completely mistaken ? If not, how should I use this ?
I know it's not an official feature (or I would have found a config option) but I'm just messing around a little with observium's code... ;)
Regards, Benjamin Abadie
On 2013-06-10 14:02, Benjamin Abadie wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for a way to reverse in and out position in port graphs. That is, display positive values for outbound, and negative ones for inbound. It can be interesting for a CDN, which mostly send its data to other ASes (booooo ! ;] )
I found a variable "$inverse" which *seems* to do what I want to do :
/opt/observium 0 # grep --exclude-dir=".svn" -n -r "$inverse" html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_data.inc.php:48: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_bits.inc.php:39: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_data.inc.php:28:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:17: if (strstr($inverse, "a")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:37: if (strstr($inverse, "b")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:57: if (strstr($inverse, "c")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_duo.inc.php:45:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; }
But setting it to true does not seem to change anything.
Am I completely mistaken ? If not, how should I use this ?
I know it's not an official feature (or I would have found a config option) but I'm just messing around a little with observium's code... ;)
I don't consider it a useful feature to swap in/out just for the sake of it.
The variables you see are for correcting the direction of a set of data which has been measured at the opposite end of the link as the other sets of data you're viewing.
I don't consider it useful to arbitrarily swap the direction of data, there is nothing to be gained from that.
If the data is leaving the port, it's leaving the port. Why would you want the graph to tell you it's entering the port?
adam.
just curious, why inverse anyway? Seems logical this way.
On 10/06/13 17:02, Benjamin Abadie wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for a way to reverse in and out position in port graphs. That is, display positive values for outbound, and negative ones for inbound. It can be interesting for a CDN, which mostly send its data to other ASes (booooo ! ;] )
I found a variable "$inverse" which *seems* to do what I want to do :
/opt/observium 0 # grep --exclude-dir=".svn" -n -r "$inverse" html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_data.inc.php:48: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_bits.inc.php:39: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_data.inc.php:28:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:17: if (strstr($inverse, "a")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:37: if (strstr($inverse, "b")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:57: if (strstr($inverse, "c")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_duo.inc.php:45:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; }
But setting it to true does not seem to change anything.
Am I completely mistaken ? If not, how should I use this ?
I know it's not an official feature (or I would have found a config option) but I'm just messing around a little with observium's code... ;)
Regards, Benjamin Abadie _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
:)
On 2013-06-10 14:02, Benjamin Abadie wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for a way to reverse in and out position in port graphs. That is, display positive values for outbound, and negative ones for inbound. It can be interesting for a CDN, which mostly send its data to other ASes (booooo ! ;] )
I found a variable "$inverse" which *seems* to do what I want to do :
/opt/observium 0 # grep --exclude-dir=".svn" -n -r "$inverse" html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_data.inc.php:48: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_multi_bits.inc.php:39: if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/generic_data.inc.php:28:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:17: if (strstr($inverse, "a")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:37: if (strstr($inverse, "b")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_trio.inc.php:57: if (strstr($inverse, "c")) { $in = "OUT"; $out = "IN"; } else { $in = "IN"; $out = "OUT"; } html/includes/graphs/multiport/bits_duo.inc.php:45:if ($inverse) { $in = 'out'; $out = 'in'; } else { $in = 'in'; $out = 'out'; }
But setting it to true does not seem to change anything.
Am I completely mistaken ? If not, how should I use this ?
I know it's not an official feature (or I would have found a config option) but I'm just messing around a little with observium's code... ;)
Regards, Benjamin Abadie _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
On 06/10/2013 03:22 PM, Adam Armstrong wrote:
http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
:)
*bookmark*
I don't consider it a useful feature to swap in/out just for the sake of it.
The variables you see are for correcting the direction of a set of data which has been measured at the opposite end of the link as the other sets of data you're viewing.
I don't consider it useful to arbitrarily swap the direction of data, there is nothing to be gained from that.
If the data is leaving the port, it's leaving the port. Why would you want the graph to tell you it's entering the port?
Well, I don't want the graph to tell me that, outbound data should still be labeled "out". It is just a matter of *where* it is on the graph. I.e. above or below 0.
On our interfaces facing other AS, inbound traffic is mostly just requests and TCP ACKs. The actual traffic load is outbound, resulting in a x10 asymmetry. It would then be more intuitive to display the graph with outbound data in the positive range, and inbound in the negative.
(looking more like a mountain than an iceberg ;)
If the colors could remain the same (i.e green-ish for inbound and blue-ish for outbound) that could be great.
Do you see my point ?
Benjamin
On 2013-06-10 15:37, Benjamin Abadie wrote:
On 06/10/2013 03:22 PM, Adam Armstrong wrote: http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
:)
*bookmark*
I don't consider it a useful feature to swap in/out just for the sake of it.
The variables you see are for correcting the direction of a set of data which has been measured at the opposite end of the link as the other sets of data you're viewing.
I don't consider it useful to arbitrarily swap the direction of data, there is nothing to be gained from that.
If the data is leaving the port, it's leaving the port. Why would you want the graph to tell you it's entering the port?
Well, I don't want the graph to tell me that, outbound data should still be labeled "out". It is just a matter of *where* it is on the graph. I.e. above or below 0.
On our interfaces facing other AS, inbound traffic is mostly just requests and TCP ACKs. The actual traffic load is outbound, resulting in a x10 asymmetry. It would then be more intuitive to display the graph with outbound data in the positive range, and inbound in the negative.
(looking more like a mountain than an iceberg ;)
If the colors could remain the same (i.e green-ish for inbound and blue-ish for outbound) that could be great.
Do you see my point ?
This may seem to make sense to you, after your brain has justified to you why it think this is a good idea, but it isn't.
You'll simply confuse everyone whose brain hasn't already jumped through hoops to convince itself that inverting the graph is a good idea for a trivial reason.
We have a UI convention on showing In/Out traffic, Ingress is positive, egress is negative, to allow those to be swapped arbitrarily would reduce the intuitiveness of the interface.
adam.
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