Hi all,
I have some devices for which the fan speed reported over IPMI is in percent. As the current ipmi_unit is “RPM” they were ignored.
Thinking that it could be an easy tweak I just added a definition for percent in includes/definitions/sensors.inc.php $config['ipmi_unit']['percent'] = 'fanspeed';
This makes the detection and polling work but the graphs are messed up as they expect RPMs (kind of make sense eh). I believe that the fan sensors code is not designed to accommodate different units. So I come for advice on how to tackle this one. Is there a sensors that already work with percent ?
Below is the output of the ipmi sensors. Yes it shit, and you need to thanks HP for that (especially things like the temperature limit for CPU or reporting the nominal Wattage of a PSU instead of the power consumption …)
UID Light | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na Sys. Health LED | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na 01-Front Ambient | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 42.000 | 46.000 02-CPU 1 | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 03-CPU 2 | 53.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 04-P1 DIMM 1-4 | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 05-P1 DIMM 5-8 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 06-P2 DIMM 1-4 | 58.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 07-P2 DIMM 5-8 | 57.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 08-HD Max | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 60.000 | na 09-HD Zone | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | na 10-Chipset | 81.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 105.000 | na 11-VR P1 | 80.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 12-VR P2 | 55.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 13-VR P1 MEM1 | 66.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 14-VR P1 MEM2 | 71.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 15-VR P2 Mem1 | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 16-VR P2 Mem2 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 17-LOM | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 18-PCI 1 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 19-PCI 2 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 20-PCI 3 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 21-LOM Card | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 22-PCI 1 Zone | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 70.000 | 75.000 23-LOM Zone | 72.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 24-Battery Zone | 65.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 25-PSU Intake | 40.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 26-Sys Exhaust | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 Fan 1 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Fan 2 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 1 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 2 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Memory | 0x0 | discrete | 0x4080| na | na | na | na | na | na
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Hi Louis,
Try "capacity" instead of "fanspeed" and let me know how that works for you. :-)
They won't show up as fan sensors though. At least not yet.
Tom
On 2016-02-18 14:25, Louis Bailleul wrote:
Hi all,
I have some devices for which the fan speed reported over IPMI is in percent.
As the current ipmi_unit is “RPM” they were ignored.
Thinking that it could be an easy tweak I just added a definition for percent in includes/definitions/sensors.inc.php
$config['ipmi_unit']['percent'] = 'fanspeed';
This makes the detection and polling work but the graphs are messed up as they expect RPMs (kind of make sense eh).
I believe that the fan sensors code is not designed to accommodate different units.
So I come for advice on how to tackle this one.
Is there a sensors that already work with percent ?
Below is the output of the ipmi sensors.
Yes it shit, and you need to thanks HP for that (especially things like the temperature limit for CPU or reporting the nominal Wattage of a PSU instead of the power consumption …)
UID Light | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na
Sys. Health LED | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na
01-Front Ambient | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 42.000 | 46.000
02-CPU 1 | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na
03-CPU 2 | 53.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na
04-P1 DIMM 1-4 | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na
05-P1 DIMM 5-8 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na
06-P2 DIMM 1-4 | 58.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na
07-P2 DIMM 5-8 | 57.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na
08-HD Max | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 60.000 | na
09-HD Zone | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | na
10-Chipset | 81.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 105.000 | na
11-VR P1 | 80.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000
12-VR P2 | 55.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000
13-VR P1 MEM1 | 66.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000
14-VR P1 MEM2 | 71.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000
15-VR P2 Mem1 | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000
16-VR P2 Mem2 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000
17-LOM | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na
18-PCI 1 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na
19-PCI 2 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na
20-PCI 3 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na
21-LOM Card | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na
22-PCI 1 Zone | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 70.000 | 75.000
23-LOM Zone | 72.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000
24-Battery Zone | 65.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000
25-PSU Intake | 40.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000
26-Sys Exhaust | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000
Fan 1 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na
Fan 2 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na
Power Supply 1 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na
Power Supply 2 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na
Memory | 0x0 | discrete | 0x4080| na | na | na | na | na | na
Best regards,
Louis
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Hi Tom,
Sorry for the late answer. I had the chance to try with Capacity instead of Fanspeed.
But actually I was quick to blame the graphs : they are not that bad once they have settled (see attached). It just the legend that says “rpm” that is confusing. They basically provide the same thing as with “Capacity”.
But still, I am not quite sure which way should be preferred. It make sense to assigned fan sensors to the Fan category. But at the same time if they are only detected by the “percent” unit they might be confused with another type of sensors.
Is there another way to identify a type of sensors that could be used to confirm that this is a fan ?
Best regards, Louis
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Hi Louis,
Try "capacity" instead of "fanspeed" and let me know how that works for you. :-)
They won't show up as fan sensors though. At least not yet.
Tom On 2016-02-18 14:25, Louis Bailleul wrote: Hi all,
I have some devices for which the fan speed reported over IPMI is in percent. As the current ipmi_unit is “RPM” they were ignored.
Thinking that it could be an easy tweak I just added a definition for percent in includes/definitions/sensors.inc.php $config['ipmi_unit']['percent'] = 'fanspeed';
This makes the detection and polling work but the graphs are messed up as they expect RPMs (kind of make sense eh). I believe that the fan sensors code is not designed to accommodate different units. So I come for advice on how to tackle this one. Is there a sensors that already work with percent ?
Below is the output of the ipmi sensors. Yes it shit, and you need to thanks HP for that (especially things like the temperature limit for CPU or reporting the nominal Wattage of a PSU instead of the power consumption …)
UID Light | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na Sys. Health LED | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na 01-Front Ambient | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 42.000 | 46.000 02-CPU 1 | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 03-CPU 2 | 53.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 04-P1 DIMM 1-4 | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 05-P1 DIMM 5-8 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 06-P2 DIMM 1-4 | 58.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 07-P2 DIMM 5-8 | 57.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 08-HD Max | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 60.000 | na 09-HD Zone | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | na 10-Chipset | 81.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 105.000 | na 11-VR P1 | 80.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 12-VR P2 | 55.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 13-VR P1 MEM1 | 66.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 14-VR P1 MEM2 | 71.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 15-VR P2 Mem1 | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 16-VR P2 Mem2 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 17-LOM | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 18-PCI 1 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 19-PCI 2 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 20-PCI 3 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 21-LOM Card | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 22-PCI 1 Zone | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 70.000 | 75.000 23-LOM Zone | 72.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 24-Battery Zone | 65.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 25-PSU Intake | 40.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 26-Sys Exhaust | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 Fan 1 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Fan 2 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 1 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 2 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Memory | 0x0 | discrete | 0x4080| na | na | na | na | na | na
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Louis,
Even if we could do different units for the same entity (which we don't, because showing an aggregate graph of fans doing both rpm and % is impossible), there is no way to know if a "percent" sensor on your BMC is actually a fan, apart from trying to see if the word "Fan" is in the name, but I'm not sure I consider that reliable enough.
Tom
On 2016-02-26 14:22, Louis Bailleul wrote:
Hi Tom,
Sorry for the late answer.
I had the chance to try with Capacity instead of Fanspeed.
But actually I was quick to blame the graphs : they are not that bad once they have settled (see attached).
It just the legend that says “rpm” that is confusing.
They basically provide the same thing as with “Capacity”.
But still, I am not quite sure which way should be preferred.
It make sense to assigned fan sensors to the Fan category.
But at the same time if they are only detected by the “percent” unit they might be confused with another type of sensors.
Is there another way to identify a type of sensors that could be used to confirm that this is a fan ?
Best regards,
Louis
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Hi Louis,
Try "capacity" instead of "fanspeed" and let me know how that works for you. :-)
They won't show up as fan sensors though. At least not yet.
Tom
On 2016-02-18 14:25, Louis Bailleul wrote:
Hi all, I have some devices for which the fan speed reported over IPMI is in percent. As the current ipmi_unit is “RPM” they were ignored. Thinking that it could be an easy tweak I just added a definition for percent in includes/definitions/sensors.inc.php $config['ipmi_unit']['percent'] = 'fanspeed'; This makes the detection and polling work but the graphs are messed up as they expect RPMs (kind of make sense eh). I believe that the fan sensors code is not designed to accommodate different units. So I come for advice on how to tackle this one. Is there a sensors that already work with percent ? Below is the output of the ipmi sensors. Yes it shit, and you need to thanks HP for that (especially things like the temperature limit for CPU or reporting the nominal Wattage of a PSU instead of the power consumption …) UID Light | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na Sys. Health LED | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na 01-Front Ambient | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 42.000 | 46.000 02-CPU 1 | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 03-CPU 2 | 53.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 04-P1 DIMM 1-4 | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 05-P1 DIMM 5-8 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 06-P2 DIMM 1-4 | 58.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 07-P2 DIMM 5-8 | 57.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 08-HD Max | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 60.000 | na 09-HD Zone | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | na 10-Chipset | 81.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 105.000 | na 11-VR P1 | 80.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 12-VR P2 | 55.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 13-VR P1 MEM1 | 66.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 14-VR P1 MEM2 | 71.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 15-VR P2 Mem1 | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 16-VR P2 Mem2 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 17-LOM | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 18-PCI 1 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 19-PCI 2 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 20-PCI 3 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 21-LOM Card | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 22-PCI 1 Zone | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 70.000 | 75.000 23-LOM Zone | 72.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 24-Battery Zone | 65.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 25-PSU Intake | 40.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 26-Sys Exhaust | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 Fan 1 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Fan 2 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 1 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 2 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Memory | 0x0 | discrete | 0x4080| na | na | na | na | na | na Best regards, Louis <http://www.pgs.com> *Louis Bailleul* /Computer Systems Engineer/ Imaging & Engineering | Imaging *Telephone: *+44 1932 376000 *Direct: *+44 1932 376842 *VOIP: *74416842 *Mobile: *+44 7786 525307 *Email: *louis.bailleul@pgs.com <mailto:louis.bailleul@pgs.com> *A Clearer Image | www.pgs.com <http://www.pgs.com> *** *Address:* 4 The Heights, Brooklands, Weybridge, Surrey, KT13 0NY*, *United Kingdom This e-mail, including any attachments and response string, may contain proprietary information which is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by return e-mail and delete this message and any attachment immediately. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, distribute, forward, copy, print or rely on this e-mail in any way except as permitted by the author. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__postman.memetic.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_observium&d=BQMDaQ&c=KV_I7O14pmwRcmAVyJ1eg4Jwb8Y2JAxuL5YgMGHpjcQ&r=FTXmt89oLXmbXfP78w86-PxB1XdLYgxG8hEoAnZvCvs&m=ygohzW9MWVRXN0D30NOIKRp-FOHDQmyFL511_qt4Lbs&s=veX-CHUgrJJWs3OVGB56t9QcEvADvch-XhtARHRh28A&e=>
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Tom,
Yes, that makes sense. I didn’t consider the fact that you could have Fan sensors reported with different unit on the same device. This would indeed messed up the aggregate graph.
If there is no other way than looking at the name to identify the sensor I agree this is not reliable at all (I have fans that are just called sensor-12 and sensor-13 on another BMC).
In my case I will map “percent” to “capacity” as it is the option that is less likely to cause issues.
By the way, any reason why this wasn’t already implemented ? From my end the code seems to handle everything properly.
The only thing I can think of, is that the aggregate graph might not make a lot of sense if you have sensors for different things that are in percent.
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Louis,
Even if we could do different units for the same entity (which we don't, because showing an aggregate graph of fans doing both rpm and % is impossible), there is no way to know if a "percent" sensor on your BMC is actually a fan, apart from trying to see if the word "Fan" is in the name, but I'm not sure I consider that reliable enough.
Tom On 2016-02-26 14:22, Louis Bailleul wrote: Hi Tom,
Sorry for the late answer. I had the chance to try with Capacity instead of Fanspeed.
But actually I was quick to blame the graphs : they are not that bad once they have settled (see attached). It just the legend that says “rpm” that is confusing. They basically provide the same thing as with “Capacity”.
But still, I am not quite sure which way should be preferred. It make sense to assigned fan sensors to the Fan category. But at the same time if they are only detected by the “percent” unit they might be confused with another type of sensors.
Is there another way to identify a type of sensors that could be used to confirm that this is a fan ?
Best regards, Louis
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From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Tom Laermans Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 16:43 To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] IPMI fan speed as percent
Hi Louis,
Try "capacity" instead of "fanspeed" and let me know how that works for you. :-)
They won't show up as fan sensors though. At least not yet.
Tom On 2016-02-18 14:25, Louis Bailleul wrote: Hi all,
I have some devices for which the fan speed reported over IPMI is in percent. As the current ipmi_unit is “RPM” they were ignored.
Thinking that it could be an easy tweak I just added a definition for percent in includes/definitions/sensors.inc.php $config['ipmi_unit']['percent'] = 'fanspeed';
This makes the detection and polling work but the graphs are messed up as they expect RPMs (kind of make sense eh). I believe that the fan sensors code is not designed to accommodate different units. So I come for advice on how to tackle this one. Is there a sensors that already work with percent ?
Below is the output of the ipmi sensors. Yes it shit, and you need to thanks HP for that (especially things like the temperature limit for CPU or reporting the nominal Wattage of a PSU instead of the power consumption …)
UID Light | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na Sys. Health LED | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na 01-Front Ambient | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 42.000 | 46.000 02-CPU 1 | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 03-CPU 2 | 53.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 04-P1 DIMM 1-4 | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 05-P1 DIMM 5-8 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 06-P2 DIMM 1-4 | 58.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 07-P2 DIMM 5-8 | 57.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 08-HD Max | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 60.000 | na 09-HD Zone | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | na 10-Chipset | 81.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 105.000 | na 11-VR P1 | 80.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 12-VR P2 | 55.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 13-VR P1 MEM1 | 66.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 14-VR P1 MEM2 | 71.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 15-VR P2 Mem1 | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 16-VR P2 Mem2 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 17-LOM | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 18-PCI 1 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 19-PCI 2 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 20-PCI 3 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 21-LOM Card | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 22-PCI 1 Zone | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 70.000 | 75.000 23-LOM Zone | 72.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 24-Battery Zone | 65.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 25-PSU Intake | 40.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 26-Sys Exhaust | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 Fan 1 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Fan 2 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 1 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 2 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Memory | 0x0 | discrete | 0x4080| na | na | na | na | na | na
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Louis,
The reason it wasn't implemented was just an oversight - I believe at the time the IPMI code was introduced there were no capacity sensors yet; I've corrected this beginning of this week :-)
Tom
On 26/02/2016 14:38, Louis Bailleul wrote:
Tom,
Yes, that makes sense.
I didn’t consider the fact that you could have Fan sensors reported with different unit on the same device.
This would indeed messed up the aggregate graph.
If there is no other way than looking at the name to identify the sensor I agree this is not reliable at all (I have fans that are just called sensor-12 and sensor-13 on another BMC).
In my case I will map “percent” to “capacity” as it is the option that is less likely to cause issues.
By the way, any reason why this wasn’t already implemented ?
From my end the code seems to handle everything properly.
The only thing I can think of, is that the aggregate graph might not make a lot of sense if you have sensors for different things that are in percent.
Best regards,
Louis
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Louis,
Even if we could do different units for the same entity (which we don't, because showing an aggregate graph of fans doing both rpm and % is impossible), there is no way to know if a "percent" sensor on your BMC is actually a fan, apart from trying to see if the word "Fan" is in the name, but I'm not sure I consider that reliable enough.
Tom
On 2016-02-26 14:22, Louis Bailleul wrote:
Hi Tom, Sorry for the late answer. I had the chance to try with Capacity instead of Fanspeed. But actually I was quick to blame the graphs : they are not that bad once they have settled (see attached). It just the legend that says “rpm” that is confusing. They basically provide the same thing as with “Capacity”. But still, I am not quite sure which way should be preferred. It make sense to assigned fan sensors to the Fan category. But at the same time if they are only detected by the “percent” unit they might be confused with another type of sensors. Is there another way to identify a type of sensors that could be used to confirm that this is a fan ? Best regards, Louis <http://www.pgs.com> *Louis Bailleul* /Computer Systems Engineer/ Imaging & Engineering | Imaging *Telephone: *+44 1932 376000 *Direct: *+44 1932 376842 *VOIP: *74416842 *Mobile: *+44 7786 525307 *Email: *louis.bailleul@pgs.com <mailto:louis.bailleul@pgs.com> *A Clearer Image | www.pgs.com <http://www.pgs.com> *** *From:*observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] *On Behalf Of *Tom Laermans *Sent:* Thursday, February 18, 2016 16:43 *To:* Observium Network Observation System *Subject:* Re: [Observium] IPMI fan speed as percent Hi Louis, Try "capacity" instead of "fanspeed" and let me know how that works for you. :-) They won't show up as fan sensors though. At least not yet. Tom On 2016-02-18 14:25, Louis Bailleul wrote: Hi all, I have some devices for which the fan speed reported over IPMI is in percent. As the current ipmi_unit is “RPM” they were ignored. Thinking that it could be an easy tweak I just added a definition for percent in includes/definitions/sensors.inc.php $config['ipmi_unit']['percent'] = 'fanspeed'; This makes the detection and polling work but the graphs are messed up as they expect RPMs (kind of make sense eh). I believe that the fan sensors code is not designed to accommodate different units. So I come for advice on how to tackle this one. Is there a sensors that already work with percent ? Below is the output of the ipmi sensors. Yes it shit, and you need to thanks HP for that (especially things like the temperature limit for CPU or reporting the nominal Wattage of a PSU instead of the power consumption …) UID Light | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na Sys. Health LED | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na 01-Front Ambient | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 42.000 | 46.000 02-CPU 1 | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 03-CPU 2 | 53.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 04-P1 DIMM 1-4 | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 05-P1 DIMM 5-8 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 06-P2 DIMM 1-4 | 58.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 07-P2 DIMM 5-8 | 57.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 08-HD Max | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 60.000 | na 09-HD Zone | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | na 10-Chipset | 81.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 105.000 | na 11-VR P1 | 80.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 12-VR P2 | 55.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 13-VR P1 MEM1 | 66.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 14-VR P1 MEM2 | 71.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 15-VR P2 Mem1 | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 16-VR P2 Mem2 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 17-LOM | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 18-PCI 1 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 19-PCI 2 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 20-PCI 3 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 21-LOM Card | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 22-PCI 1 Zone | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 70.000 | 75.000 23-LOM Zone | 72.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 24-Battery Zone | 65.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 25-PSU Intake | 40.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 26-Sys Exhaust | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 Fan 1 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Fan 2 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 1 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 2 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Memory | 0x0 | discrete | 0x4080| na | na | na | na | na | na Best regards, Louis <http://www.pgs.com> *Louis Bailleul* /Computer Systems Engineer/ Imaging & Engineering | Imaging *Telephone: *+44 1932 376000 *Direct: *+44 1932 376842 *VOIP: *74416842 *Mobile: *+44 7786 525307 *Email: *louis.bailleul@pgs.com <mailto:louis.bailleul@pgs.com> *A Clearer Image | www.pgs.com <http://www.pgs.com> *** *Address:* 4 The Heights, Brooklands, Weybridge, Surrey, KT13 0NY*, *United Kingdom This e-mail, including any attachments and response string, may contain proprietary information which is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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Hi Tom,
Thanks for the answer.
Is there a place where one can track the changes made on the professional edition ?
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From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Tom Laermans Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 21:11 To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] IPMI fan speed as percent
Louis,
The reason it wasn't implemented was just an oversight - I believe at the time the IPMI code was introduced there were no capacity sensors yet; I've corrected this beginning of this week :-)
Tom
On 26/02/2016 14:38, Louis Bailleul wrote: Tom,
Yes, that makes sense. I didn’t consider the fact that you could have Fan sensors reported with different unit on the same device. This would indeed messed up the aggregate graph.
If there is no other way than looking at the name to identify the sensor I agree this is not reliable at all (I have fans that are just called sensor-12 and sensor-13 on another BMC).
In my case I will map “percent” to “capacity” as it is the option that is less likely to cause issues.
By the way, any reason why this wasn’t already implemented ? From my end the code seems to handle everything properly.
The only thing I can think of, is that the aggregate graph might not make a lot of sense if you have sensors for different things that are in percent.
Best regards, Louis
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From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Tom Laermans Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 13:25 To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] IPMI fan speed as percent
Louis,
Even if we could do different units for the same entity (which we don't, because showing an aggregate graph of fans doing both rpm and % is impossible), there is no way to know if a "percent" sensor on your BMC is actually a fan, apart from trying to see if the word "Fan" is in the name, but I'm not sure I consider that reliable enough.
Tom On 2016-02-26 14:22, Louis Bailleul wrote: Hi Tom,
Sorry for the late answer. I had the chance to try with Capacity instead of Fanspeed.
But actually I was quick to blame the graphs : they are not that bad once they have settled (see attached). It just the legend that says “rpm” that is confusing. They basically provide the same thing as with “Capacity”.
But still, I am not quite sure which way should be preferred. It make sense to assigned fan sensors to the Fan category. But at the same time if they are only detected by the “percent” unit they might be confused with another type of sensors.
Is there another way to identify a type of sensors that could be used to confirm that this is a fan ?
Best regards, Louis
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From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Tom Laermans Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 16:43 To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] IPMI fan speed as percent
Hi Louis,
Try "capacity" instead of "fanspeed" and let me know how that works for you. :-)
They won't show up as fan sensors though. At least not yet.
Tom On 2016-02-18 14:25, Louis Bailleul wrote: Hi all,
I have some devices for which the fan speed reported over IPMI is in percent. As the current ipmi_unit is “RPM” they were ignored.
Thinking that it could be an easy tweak I just added a definition for percent in includes/definitions/sensors.inc.php $config['ipmi_unit']['percent'] = 'fanspeed';
This makes the detection and polling work but the graphs are messed up as they expect RPMs (kind of make sense eh). I believe that the fan sensors code is not designed to accommodate different units. So I come for advice on how to tackle this one. Is there a sensors that already work with percent ?
Below is the output of the ipmi sensors. Yes it shit, and you need to thanks HP for that (especially things like the temperature limit for CPU or reporting the nominal Wattage of a PSU instead of the power consumption …)
UID Light | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na Sys. Health LED | 0x0 | discrete | 0x0180| na | na | na | na | na | na 01-Front Ambient | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 42.000 | 46.000 02-CPU 1 | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 03-CPU 2 | 53.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | -116.000 | na 04-P1 DIMM 1-4 | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 05-P1 DIMM 5-8 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 06-P2 DIMM 1-4 | 58.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 07-P2 DIMM 5-8 | 57.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 87.000 | na 08-HD Max | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 60.000 | na 09-HD Zone | 24.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | na 10-Chipset | 81.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 105.000 | na 11-VR P1 | 80.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 12-VR P2 | 55.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 13-VR P1 MEM1 | 66.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 14-VR P1 MEM2 | 71.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 15-VR P2 Mem1 | 43.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 16-VR P2 Mem2 | 69.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 115.000 | 120.000 17-LOM | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 18-PCI 1 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 19-PCI 2 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 20-PCI 3 | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 21-LOM Card | na | | na | na | na | na | na | 100.000 | na 22-PCI 1 Zone | 59.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 70.000 | 75.000 23-LOM Zone | 72.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 24-Battery Zone | 65.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 75.000 | 80.000 25-PSU Intake | 40.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 26-Sys Exhaust | 64.000 | degrees C | ok | na | na | na | na | 80.000 | 85.000 Fan 1 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Fan 2 | 67.816 | percent | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 1 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Power Supply 2 | 1275 | Watts | ok | na | na | na | na | na | na Memory | 0x0 | discrete | 0x4080| na | na | na | na | na | na
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Louis Bailleul -
Tom Laermans