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Hi Adam,
Looks like routing-cef is broken http://demo.observium.org/routing/cef/. Just head up if you don't know, because it broken long time ;). It just fine showing up if you select specific device cef.
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On 16/09/2011 11:08, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
Hi Adam,
Looks like routing-cef is broken http://demo.observium.org/routing/cef/. Just head up if you don't know, because it broken long time ;). It just fine showing up if you select specific device cef.
It's not broken, i just have no idea how to present the information on that page.
Suggestions and drawings welcomed :)
adam.
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On 16/09/11 17:41, Adam Armstrong wrote:
It's not broken, i just have no idea how to present the information on that page.
Suggestions and drawings welcomed :)
This could be presented as summary of all entity per device. So basically take http://demo.observium.org/device/45/routing/cef/basic/routing/ as template, sum drop/punt/punt2host, you will get one-row one-device.
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On 16/09/2011 14:51, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
On 16/09/11 17:41, Adam Armstrong wrote:
It's not broken, i just have no idea how to present the information on that page.
Suggestions and drawings welcomed :)
This could be presented as summary of all entity per device. So basically take http://demo.observium.org/device/45/routing/cef/basic/routing/ as template, sum drop/punt/punt2host, you will get one-row one-device.
The rows in the device routing aren't unique, packets are counted multiple times as they move through the forwarding path (counted in LES, then PAS, etc).
The rows have varying significance depending upon platform too, distributed platforms have different paths.
It's complicated!
adam.
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On 16/09/11 17:55, Adam Armstrong wrote:
On 16/09/2011 14:51, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
On 16/09/11 17:41, Adam Armstrong wrote:
It's not broken, i just have no idea how to present the information on that page.
Suggestions and drawings welcomed :)
This could be presented as summary of all entity per device. So basically take http://demo.observium.org/device/45/routing/cef/basic/routing/ as template, sum drop/punt/punt2host, you will get one-row one-device.
The rows in the device routing aren't unique, packets are counted multiple times as they move through the forwarding path (counted in LES, then PAS, etc).
The rows have varying significance depending upon platform too, distributed platforms have different paths.
It's complicated!
adam.
I see, btw which MIB is responsible for this CEF information? CISCO-CEF-MIB? I have strange results some routers doesn't contain such information.
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On 16/09/2011 15:03, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
On 16/09/11 17:55, Adam Armstrong wrote:
On 16/09/2011 14:51, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
On 16/09/11 17:41, Adam Armstrong wrote:
It's not broken, i just have no idea how to present the information on that page.
Suggestions and drawings welcomed :)
This could be presented as summary of all entity per device. So basically take http://demo.observium.org/device/45/routing/cef/basic/routing/ as template, sum drop/punt/punt2host, you will get one-row one-device.
The rows in the device routing aren't unique, packets are counted multiple times as they move through the forwarding path (counted in LES, then PAS, etc).
The rows have varying significance depending upon platform too, distributed platforms have different paths.
It's complicated!
adam.
I see, btw which MIB is responsible for this CEF information? CISCO-CEF-MIB? I have strange results some routers doesn't contain such information.
Yeah. Typical Cisco spotty MIB implementation.
adam.
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Hello Everyone....
Just curious as to how to integrate new MIB's... We just rolled out our new 3Par SAN and have gotten the 3Par MIB from HP... Is it just a simple matter of dropping the MIB in with the others?? Or does it require some other backend work within Observium in order to utilize the new MIB / functionality???
Cheers,
Matt
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Hello Matt,
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 11:07 -0300, Matthew Coene wrote:
Hello Everyone....
Just curious as to how to integrate new MIB's... We just rolled out our new 3Par SAN and have gotten the 3Par MIB from HP... Is it just a simple matter of dropping the MIB in with the others?? Or does it require some other backend work within Observium in order to utilize the new MIB / functionality???
The MIB goes into mibs/ but ... obviously all graphs and pages in Observium are generated by code, and dropping in a MIB doesn't do that. To utilize it, code will need to be written, starting with recognizing the device type.
There is some developer documentation on the wiki to get started, likely we can do something as well if you can provide us with an snmp commmunity to the running system to test with.
Tom (PS: Please don't thread-hijack, it messes up real mail clients' threading)
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SAN isn't even really connected to the outside world... Unfortunately, this doesn't help the development case... I do have their latest MIB if you want to take a look.. Of course I will ask first as I don't know if there any IP infringement issues with posting the MIB straight to the maillist?
Matt
From: Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Date: 09/16/2011 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Observium] MIBs Sent by: observium-bounces@observium.org
Hello Matt,
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 11:07 -0300, Matthew Coene wrote:
Hello Everyone....
Just curious as to how to integrate new MIB's... We just rolled out our new 3Par SAN and have gotten the 3Par MIB from HP... Is it just a simple matter of dropping the MIB in with the others?? Or does it
require
some other backend work within Observium in order to utilize the new
MIB /
functionality???
The MIB goes into mibs/ but ... obviously all graphs and pages in Observium are generated by code, and dropping in a MIB doesn't do that. To utilize it, code will need to be written, starting with recognizing the device type.
There is some developer documentation on the wiki to get started, likely we can do something as well if you can provide us with an snmp commmunity to the running system to test with.
Tom (PS: Please don't thread-hijack, it messes up real mail clients' threading)
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Matt, I recently added a device type so I may be able to help with this. A link to the MIB would be useful, but I think that seeing the output of an snmpwalk of the device would be more useful. I find reading MIBs quite painful without having the actual data that the device spits out. If you could post both of those somewhere I'd be willing to give it a shot.
Mike
On Sep 16, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Matthew Coene wrote:
SAN isn't even really connected to the outside world... Unfortunately, this doesn't help the development case... I do have their latest MIB if you want to take a look.. Of course I will ask first as I don't know if there any IP infringement issues with posting the MIB straight to the maillist?
Matt
From: Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Date: 09/16/2011 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Observium] MIBs Sent by: observium-bounces@observium.org
Hello Matt,
On Fri, 2011-09-16 at 11:07 -0300, Matthew Coene wrote:
Hello Everyone....
Just curious as to how to integrate new MIB's... We just rolled out our new 3Par SAN and have gotten the 3Par MIB from HP... Is it just a simple matter of dropping the MIB in with the others?? Or does it
require
some other backend work within Observium in order to utilize the new
MIB /
functionality???
The MIB goes into mibs/ but ... obviously all graphs and pages in Observium are generated by code, and dropping in a MIB doesn't do that. To utilize it, code will need to be written, starting with recognizing the device type.
There is some developer documentation on the wiki to get started, likely we can do something as well if you can provide us with an snmp commmunity to the running system to test with.
Tom (PS: Please don't thread-hijack, it messes up real mail clients' threading)
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On 16/09/11 18:04, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Yeah. Typical Cisco spotty MIB implementation.
Well, some vendors even could screw up simple set or not implement SNMP at all, Cisco at least trying :-D
Apart from that, just checked router it have limited subset of CISCO-CEF-MIB. Looks like it only implement only on platforms not lower then 7200.
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Adam Armstrong
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Matthew Coene
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Michael Robbert
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Nikolay Shopik
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Tom Laermans