We already do ping/latency. Doing packetloss is a different thing, because we have to send a lot of packets at a device and measure how many are returned. I'm not sure if it's something we can do in the poller without affecting other things.

adam.

------ Original Message ------ From: "Darian Jimenez" darian929@gmail.com To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 10/30/2014 6:55:28 AM Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Tom/Adam,

Is this something that you guys will be implementing in the future ? I think a lot of people would love to monitor and alert based on packet drops or latency and just basic ping test.

If not is it something hard to impelled end on ones own?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:

...

We don't measure packet loss, so you can't send an alarm on it.

On 10/30/2014 10:28 AM, Brett Jones wrote:

...

Hi there.

Resending out message as I am hoping someone can assist me with this.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm?

I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

type_match *

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones

2nd/3rd line support engineer

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From: Brett Jones Sent: 29 October 2014 11:18 To: 'observium@observium.org' Subject: help with an alarm

Hi there,

Just got your product up and working with a few back end modifies ect we have a good monitoring system hear. We paid the extra to have the alert functionality as we are an ISP.

I have a question though for you.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm?

I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

type_match *

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones

2nd/3rd line support engineer

Tel: 01202 612000

Fax: 01202 612111

W:www.voip-unlimited.net

E:brett.jones@voip-unlimited.net

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Same here. Would love some other process run pings and check for this. At this time the only time devices are pinged are at polling right ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Lane Eckley lane@staff.hypernia.com wrote:

Hi Adam,

We would love to see this implemented as well, but on a somewhat limited basis.

Maybe a 2nd poller can be run ever X minutes which pings selected devices 5 times and measures for packetloss?

-Lane

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: October 30, 2014 9:20 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

We already do ping/latency. Doing packetloss is a different thing, because we have to send a lot of packets at a device and measure how many are returned. I'm not sure if it's something we can do in the poller without affecting other things.

adam.

------ Original Message ------ From: "Darian Jimenez" darian929@gmail.com To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 10/30/2014 6:55:28 AM Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Tom/Adam,

Is this something that you guys will be implementing in the future ? I think a lot of people would love to monitor and alert based on packet drops or latency and just basic ping test.

If not is it something hard to impelled end on ones own?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:

We don't measure packet loss, so you can't send an alarm on it.

On 10/30/2014 10:28 AM, Brett Jones wrote: Hi there.

Resending out message as I am hoping someone can assist me with this.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm? I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250 type_match *

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones 2nd/3rd line support engineer

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From: Brett Jones Sent: 29 October 2014 11:18 To: 'observium@observium.org' Subject: help with an alarm

Hi there, Just got your product up and working with a few back end modifies ect we have a good monitoring system hear. We paid the extra to have the alert functionality as we are an ISP.

I have a question though for you.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm? I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250 type_match *

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones 2nd/3rd line support engineer

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Bruce,

I just looked at smoke ping and it looks nice. There's integration of it with observium? If so where can I find the integration steps?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Bruce Reeves breeves@nexacomm.com wrote:

I though smokeping integration handled this?

Bruce

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Darian Jimenez Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:38 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Same here. Would love some other process run pings and check for this. At this time the only time devices are pinged are at polling right ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Lane Eckley lane@staff.hypernia.com wrote:

Hi Adam,

We would love to see this implemented as well, but on a somewhat limited basis.

Maybe a 2nd poller can be run ever X minutes which pings selected devices 5 times and measures for packetloss?

-Lane

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: October 30, 2014 9:20 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

We already do ping/latency. Doing packetloss is a different thing, because we have to send a lot of packets at a device and measure how many are returned. I'm not sure if it's something we can do in the poller without affecting other things.

adam.

------ Original Message ------ From: "Darian Jimenez" darian929@gmail.com To: "Observium Network Observation System" observium@observium.org Sent: 10/30/2014 6:55:28 AM Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Tom/Adam,

Is this something that you guys will be implementing in the future ? I think a lot of people would love to monitor and alert based on packet drops or latency and just basic ping test.

If not is it something hard to impelled end on ones own?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:

We don't measure packet loss, so you can't send an alarm on it.

On 10/30/2014 10:28 AM, Brett Jones wrote: Hi there.

Resending out message as I am hoping someone can assist me with this.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm? I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250 type_match *

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones 2nd/3rd line support engineer

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From: Brett Jones Sent: 29 October 2014 11:18 To: 'observium@observium.org' Subject: help with an alarm

Hi there, Just got your product up and working with a few back end modifies ect we have a good monitoring system hear. We paid the extra to have the alert functionality as we are an ISP.

I have a question though for you.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm? I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250 type_match *

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones 2nd/3rd line support engineer

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There is a fairly powerful description language for the types of loss/latency you want to detect with Smokeping. If you modify the script shipped with Observium to build the Smokeping targets you can probably hook the smokeping alerts up pretty easily.

However, this is only going to measure loss/latency from Observium to the router. It is not going to measure latency/loss from your router to the customer. Smokeping can do that, but Observium isn't set up to generate those kinds of configs, and it would require a smokeping agent sitting in a network close to the router the customer is attached to.

What Observium could do is alert on the rate of errors on an interface, but not latency or loss across the interface, unless you are actually monitoring the customer's equipment with Observium.

________________________________ From: observium [observium-bounces@observium.org] on behalf of Darian Jimenez [darian929@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:50 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Bruce,

I just looked at smoke ping and it looks nice. There's integration of it with observium? If so where can I find the integration steps?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Bruce Reeves <breeves@nexacomm.commailto:breeves@nexacomm.com> wrote:

I though smokeping integration handled this?

Bruce

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Darian Jimenez Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:38 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Same here. Would love some other process run pings and check for this. At this time the only time devices are pinged are at polling right ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Lane Eckley <lane@staff.hypernia.commailto:lane@staff.hypernia.com> wrote: Hi Adam,

We would love to see this implemented as well, but on a somewhat limited basis.

Maybe a 2nd poller can be run ever X minutes which pings selected devices 5 times and measures for packetloss?

-Lane

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.orgmailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: October 30, 2014 9:20 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

We already do ping/latency. Doing packetloss is a different thing, because we have to send a lot of packets at a device and measure how many are returned. I'm not sure if it's something we can do in the poller without affecting other things.

adam.

------ Original Message ------ From: "Darian Jimenez" <darian929@gmail.commailto:darian929@gmail.com> To: "Observium Network Observation System" <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Sent: 10/30/2014 6:55:28 AM Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Tom/Adam,

Is this something that you guys will be implementing in the future ? I think a lot of people would love to monitor and alert based on packet drops or latency and just basic ping test.

If not is it something hard to impelled end on ones own?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cxmailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> wrote: We don't measure packet loss, so you can't send an alarm on it.

On 10/30/2014 10:28 AM, Brett Jones wrote: Hi there.

Resending out message as I am hoping someone can assist me with this.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm? I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

type_match *

*

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones 2nd/3rd line support engineer

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From: Brett Jones Sent: 29 October 2014 11:18 To: 'observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org' Subject: help with an alarm

Hi there, Just got your product up and working with a few back end modifies ect we have a good monitoring system hear. We paid the extra to have the alert functionality as we are an ISP.

I have a question though for you.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm? I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

type_match *

*

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones 2nd/3rd line support engineer

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SmokePing graphs are viewable within Observium under applicable hosts.

You need to install SmokePing onto the same machine as Observium and then use the Observium SmokePing configuration script to build your SmokePing config. Once you have it setup, start SmokePing and the graphs will begin to appear in Observium.

You need to edit/generate the SmokePing config & restart SmokePing every time you add/remove hosts, its not automated from Observium.

-Lane

*From:* observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] *On Behalf Of *Darian Jimenez *Sent:* October 30, 2014 11:16 PM *To:* Observium Network Observation System *Subject:* Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Milton,

I am monitoring the customer routers with observium so checking latency and drops from the observium box would be fine.

When installing smoke ping are the graphs viewable from within observium or it's another portal?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Milton Ngan milton@valvesoftware.com wrote:

There is a fairly powerful description language for the types of loss/latency you want to detect with Smokeping. If you modify the script shipped with Observium to build the Smokeping targets you can probably hook the smokeping alerts up pretty easily.

However, this is only going to measure loss/latency from Observium to the router. It is not going to measure latency/loss from your router to the customer. Smokeping can do that, but Observium isn't set up to generate those kinds of configs, and it would require a smokeping agent sitting in a network close to the router the customer is attached to.

What Observium could do is alert on the rate of errors on an interface, but not latency or loss across the interface, unless you are actually monitoring the customer's equipment with Observium.

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*From:* observium [observium-bounces@observium.org] on behalf of Darian Jimenez [darian929@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:50 PM *To:* Observium Network Observation System *Subject:* Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Bruce,

I just looked at smoke ping and it looks nice. There's integration of it with observium? If so where can I find the integration steps?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Bruce Reeves breeves@nexacomm.com wrote:

I though smokeping integration handled this?

Bruce

*From:* observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org observium-bounces@observium.org] *On Behalf Of *Darian Jimenez *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:38 PM *To:* Observium Network Observation System *Subject:* Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Same here. Would love some other process run pings and check for this. At this time the only time devices are pinged are at polling right ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Lane Eckley lane@staff.hypernia.com wrote:

Hi Adam,

We would love to see this implemented as well, but on a somewhat limited basis.

Maybe a 2nd poller can be run ever X minutes which pings selected devices 5 times and measures for packetloss?

-Lane

*From:* observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] *On Behalf Of *Adam Armstrong *Sent:* October 30, 2014 9:20 PM *To:* Observium Network Observation System *Subject:* Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

We already do ping/latency. Doing packetloss is a different thing, because we have to send a lot of packets at a device and measure how many are returned. I'm not sure if it's something we can do in the poller without affecting other things.

adam.

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Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Tom/Adam,

Is this something that you guys will be implementing in the future ? I think a lot of people would love to monitor and alert based on packet drops or latency and just basic ping test.

If not is it something hard to impelled end on ones own?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:

We don't measure packet loss, so you can't send an alarm on it.

On 10/30/2014 10:28 AM, Brett Jones wrote:

Hi there.

Resending out message as I am hoping someone can assist me with this.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm?

I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

type_match *

*

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones

2nd/3rd line support engineer

Tel: 01202 612000

Fax: 01202 612111

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*From:* Brett Jones *Sent:* 29 October 2014 11:18 *To:* 'observium@observium.org' *Subject:* help with an alarm

Hi there,

Just got your product up and working with a few back end modifies ect we have a good monitoring system hear. We paid the extra to have the alert functionality as we are an ISP.

I have a question though for you.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm?

I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

type_match *

*

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones

2nd/3rd line support engineer

Tel: 01202 612000

Fax: 01202 612111

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And I just answered my own question (in case anyone else is trying to figure this out too):

Tom Laermans committed 5357

6 months ago

Minor: add generate-smokeping.php to dump a Smokeping target configuration to stdout; redirect for example to /etc/smokeping/config.d/Targets to automatically add new hosts

If you’re running current CE (5229), you don’t have it. Ooops.

…Ron

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Ron Marosko Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 7:42 AM To: 'Observium Network Observation System' Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Howdy Lane,

I’m lost. Where in the fack is this “…Observium SmokePing configuration script to build your SmokePing config”? My search-fu is apparently weak.

Thanks,

Ron

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Lane Eckley Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:21 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

SmokePing graphs are viewable within Observium under applicable hosts.

You need to install SmokePing onto the same machine as Observium and then use the Observium SmokePing configuration script to build your SmokePing config. Once you have it setup, start SmokePing and the graphs will begin to appear in Observium.

You need to edit/generate the SmokePing config & restart SmokePing every time you add/remove hosts, its not automated from Observium.

-Lane

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Darian Jimenez Sent: October 30, 2014 11:16 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Milton,

I am monitoring the customer routers with observium so checking latency and drops from the observium box would be fine.

When installing smoke ping are the graphs viewable from within observium or it's another portal?

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On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Milton Ngan milton@valvesoftware.com wrote:

There is a fairly powerful description language for the types of loss/latency you want to detect with Smokeping. If you modify the script shipped with Observium to build the Smokeping targets you can probably hook the smokeping alerts up pretty easily.

However, this is only going to measure loss/latency from Observium to the router. It is not going to measure latency/loss from your router to the customer. Smokeping can do that, but Observium isn't set up to generate those kinds of configs, and it would require a smokeping agent sitting in a network close to the router the customer is attached to.

What Observium could do is alert on the rate of errors on an interface, but not latency or loss across the interface, unless you are actually monitoring the customer's equipment with Observium.

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From: observium [observium-bounces@observium.org] on behalf of Darian Jimenez [darian929@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:50 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Bruce,

I just looked at smoke ping and it looks nice. There's integration of it with observium? If so where can I find the integration steps?

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On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Bruce Reeves breeves@nexacomm.com wrote:

I though smokeping integration handled this?

Bruce

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Darian Jimenez Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 8:38 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

Same here. Would love some other process run pings and check for this. At this time the only time devices are pinged are at polling right ?

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On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:22 PM, Lane Eckley lane@staff.hypernia.com wrote:

Hi Adam,

We would love to see this implemented as well, but on a somewhat limited basis.

Maybe a 2nd poller can be run ever X minutes which pings selected devices 5 times and measures for packetloss?

-Lane

From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: October 30, 2014 9:20 PM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

We already do ping/latency. Doing packetloss is a different thing, because we have to send a lot of packets at a device and measure how many are returned. I'm not sure if it's something we can do in the poller without affecting other things.

adam.

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Tom/Adam,

Is this something that you guys will be implementing in the future ? I think a lot of people would love to monitor and alert based on packet drops or latency and just basic ping test.

If not is it something hard to impelled end on ones own?

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On Oct 30, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:

We don't measure packet loss, so you can't send an alarm on it.

On 10/30/2014 10:28 AM, Brett Jones wrote:

Hi there.

Resending out message as I am hoping someone can assist me with this.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm?

I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

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This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

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From: Brett Jones Sent: 29 October 2014 11:18 To: 'observium@observium.org' Subject: help with an alarm

Hi there,

Just got your product up and working with a few back end modifies ect we have a good monitoring system hear. We paid the extra to have the alert functionality as we are an ISP.

I have a question though for you.

How on earth do you make a packet loss alarm? IE if a CPE hits over 30% then it will alarm?

I cant find an attribute from the guide to do this.

I have set an alert as device_ping gt 250

type_match *

*

This works when a cpe hits over 250mms thus showing latency.

But how do I do a packet loss? I have tried packet_loss gt 30 but as this is not in the list it dosnt work!

Any help would be most appreciated.

Kind regards

Brett Jones

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I took a look at this. There is no support for it as far as I could see. You would need to hack on the RRD Perl module to put in support, then plumb in a config option to enable it.

But maybe my Google-fu isn't good enough to find someone who has already done this.

________________________________ From: observium [observium-bounces@observium.org] on behalf of Mark D. Nagel [mnagel@willingminds.com] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 1:26 PM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] help with an alarm

On 10/30/2014 8:21 PM, Lane Eckley wrote: SmokePing graphs are viewable within Observium under applicable hosts.

You need to install SmokePing onto the same machine as Observium and then use the Observium SmokePing configuration script to build your SmokePing config. Once you have it setup, start SmokePing and the graphs will begin to appear in Observium.

You need to edit/generate the SmokePing config & restart SmokePing every time you add/remove hosts, its not automated from Observium.

-Lane

Anyone have any thoughts on how to get Smokeping to use rrdcached? I thought this would be a no-brainer, but it doesn't seem to be trivial out of the box and little to no discussion on the topic out there apparently (exactly 3 hits on this on the smokeping list with no responses). I am reasonably sure I can figure it out, but hoped perhaps someone already had done that...

Thanks, Mark