Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation?
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
No one ever replies when I ask this :)
adam.
On 06/11/2012 18:07, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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1.4 gb
Devices
16
(
16 up
0 down
0 ignored
0 disabled
)
Ports
464
(
329 up
53 down
0 ignored
63 shutdown
)
Installation has been active for approximately 5 months.
Regards,
Daniel Hooper
From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2012 10:02 AM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: Re: [Observium] Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation?
No one ever replies when I ask this :)
adam.
On 06/11/2012 18:07, Morgan McLean wrote: Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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12468 ports 288 devices 24 sites 4 cores 16GB RAM 400GB SSD storage (200GB used)
Michael
88 devices 10252 ports 8 locations (spread over us/europe) Raid1 ssd for rrd storage
Running job's wrapper pollet since last night to improve polling a bit ( was running 8 pollers)
Maarten
Sent from my iPhone
On 7 nov. 2012, at 03:08, "Adam Armstrong" <adama@memetic.orgmailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote:
No one ever replies when I ask this :)
adam.
On 06/11/2012 18:07, Morgan McLean wrote: Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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On 11/07/2012 10:07 AM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Production: 87 up devices, 622 up ports, 25+ sites. Running on an IBM x3650 M1, 4 GB RAM, 6 x 15K RPM SAS drives with hardware RAID 5. This box runs 16 concurrent pollers; it's a bit sluggish and could probably use some more tuning and some extra RAM.
Home/test lab: 25 up devices, 155 up ports. Running on an old PC with 4 GB RAM & a couple of 320 GB drives in Linux software RAID 1. This box runs 4 concurrent pollers and seems to handle the load fine.
Paul
gees paul, give that poor thing some moar ram!
On 06/11/2012 20:14, Paul Gear wrote:
On 11/07/2012 10:07 AM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Production: 87 up devices, 622 up ports, 25+ sites. Running on an IBM x3650 M1, 4 GB RAM, 6 x 15K RPM SAS drives with hardware RAID 5. This box runs 16 concurrent pollers; it's a bit sluggish and could probably use some more tuning and some extra RAM.
Home/test lab: 25 up devices, 155 up ports. Running on an old PC with 4 GB RAM & a couple of 320 GB drives in Linux software RAID 1. This box runs 4 concurrent pollers and seems to handle the load fine.
Paul
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Dual quad core L5640 and 32GB memory here. Some sort of fast SAS configuration, don't remember. Has about 420GB usable. Probably a small raid 10.
Morgan
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
gees paul, give that poor thing some moar ram!
On 06/11/2012 20:14, Paul Gear wrote:
On 11/07/2012 10:07 AM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Production: 87 up devices, 622 up ports, 25+ sites. Running on an IBM x3650 M1, 4 GB RAM, 6 x 15K RPM SAS drives with hardware RAID 5. This box runs 16 concurrent pollers; it's a bit sluggish and could probably use some more tuning and some extra RAM.
Home/test lab: 25 up devices, 155 up ports. Running on an old PC with 4 GB RAM & a couple of 320 GB drives in Linux software RAID 1. This box runs 4 concurrent pollers and seems to handle the load fine.
Paul
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Devices
54
(
53 up
1 down
0 ignored
0 disabled
)
Ports
2348
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882 up
1067 down
0 ignored
255 shutdown
)
From: observium-bounces@observium.org [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of Morgan McLean Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 8:07 AM To: Observium Network Observation System Subject: [Observium] Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation?
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
I'll go for other end of the spectrum…
11 Devices 154 Ports
Running on a VM with 2x cpus and 512MB of ram.
Matt.
On 07/11/2012, at 10:07 AM, Morgan McLean wrx230@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Devices 198 Ports 11345
HP ProLiant DL585 G5; 4x AMD Opteron 8354 QC 2.2 Ghz; Main Memory 64 GB; HDD 6x 146 GB 10k 2,5" SAS HDD (Raid5)
19G ./observium
Kind regards Hendrik Schäfer Systemadministration
From: Morgan McLean wrx230@gmail.com To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Date: 07.11.2012 01:07 Subject: [Observium] Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation? Sent by: observium-bounces@observium.org
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
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On 7/11/2012 1:07, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Big'un:
Devices 150 ( 148 up 2 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 1673 ( 734 up 838 down 0 ignored 67 shutdown )
Quadcore Xeon, 16G RAM, RRDs on 8G ramdisk, 2x 1T in RAID1
Small'un:
Devices 26 ( 26 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 225 ( 188 up 0 down 0 ignored 37 shutdown )
KVM VM on Quadcore LV Xeon, 16G RAM, 2x 1T in RAID1
Tom
On 7/11/2012 1:07, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Still in testing but this is my list so far, expanding soon:
Devices 7 ( 7 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 49 ( 30 up 0 down 15 ignored 1 shutdown )
Running on Server 2008 R2 Hyper-V Virtual Machine (Allocated 2 CPU's, 1536MB RAM and 200GB of Virtual HDD)
Nick
Only our Core/Dist devices are in Observium
Devices 183 ( 177 up 1 down 2 ignored 3 disabled ) Ports 9019 ( 4222 up 179 down 542 ignored 3957 shutdown )
Access devices (1500 more) may be added if there had been a good way too categorize.
Parsing the hostnames, like the descriptions are parsed, would be good enough for me.
On 7 November 2012 08:13, Nicholas L. Newman n_newman@rfcclan.com wrote:
On 7/11/2012 1:07, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Still in testing but this is my list so far, expanding soon:
Devices 7 ( 7 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 49 ( 30 up 0 down 15 ignored 1 shutdown )
Running on Server 2008 R2 Hyper-V Virtual Machine (Allocated 2 CPU's, 1536MB RAM and 200GB of Virtual HDD)
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35 devices, 556 ports, 2 locations
Running on old Pentium D with 2Gb memory and some old Xeon 2.4 also with 2Gb memory
On 07/11/12 04:07, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Small IXP:
Devices 6 ( 5 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 143 ( 73 up 34 down 2 ignored 25 shutdown )
/ Olof
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Morgan McLean wrx230@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Devices 237 ( 236 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 7355 ( 4015 up 3101 down 0 ignored 212 shutdown )
virtual machine, 4Gig ram, /opt/observium takes 17Gig
/Christer
On Nov 7, 2012, at 1:07 AM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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*Devices* 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled )
*Ports* 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown )
*Services* 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert mrobbert@mines.edu wrote:
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Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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Interesting. Problems like what?
On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled )
Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown )
Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled )
Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert mrobbert@mines.edu wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld jason@lixfeld.ca wrote:
Interesting. Problems like what?
On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3
disabled )
Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77
shutdown )
Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0
disabled )
Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty,
but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert mrobbert@mines.edu
wrote:
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Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled
)
Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored
190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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Are you running a single poller via cron or the multiple poller setup?
-- Andrew Beals Cell: 913-787-7538 Desk: 913-948-8782 E-mail: ABeals@mersoft.com
From: Chris Stone <axisml@gmail.commailto:axisml@gmail.com> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:39 AM To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation?
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld <jason@lixfeld.camailto:jason@lixfeld.ca> wrote: Interesting. Problems like what?
On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone <axisml@gmail.commailto:axisml@gmail.com> wrote:
Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled )
Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown )
Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled )
Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert <mrobbert@mines.edumailto:mrobbert@mines.edu> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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Might want to actually join the mailing list properly before posting. This post was stuck in the queue.
:)
On 07/11/2012 11:48, Andrew Beals wrote:
Are you running a single poller via cron or the multiple poller setup?
-- Andrew Beals Cell: 913-787-7538 Desk: 913-948-8782 E-mail: ABeals@mersoft.com
From: Chris Stone <axisml@gmail.com mailto:axisml@gmail.com> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:39 AM To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation?
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld <jason@lixfeld.ca mailto:jason@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
Interesting. Problems like what? On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone <axisml@gmail.com <mailto:axisml@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled ) > > Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown ) > > Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) > > Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them.... > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert <mrobbert@mines.edu <mailto:mrobbert@mines.edu>> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) > Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown ) > > 25 GB of RRDs > Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10. > > Mike Robbert > Colorado School of Mines > > On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote: > > Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is > > among the users on the email list. > > > > I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody > > else? > > > > Morgan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ observium mailing > > list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQmnbCAAoJEFmgPOBxQDtBM4EH/js4fqha28VHUzCWMrBGhUvB > b0ScDZfNowmwo33AFq0wsbbhm3MqmsR2tmKtlhnH5M+kkeh6xHiBbtJYrthXP2O0 > s862ygpfU0z3DxLpZxkmtZzyl4P/TvhYYtd4/oeN6DNz6goPGXu68QCO3L5VPka0 > 8UQyv+b4frxJRH5FKjoriFpuMw34Muy4UMl2VTcZyC+qnd4nOQQBeqbVq2S3WTua > QRX18Ros0IAXINL0iGAvzdmjZYPVCtKwNO6LFWHBmwd80x7VlzuW6EjSAU8+CLRK > 3AZaaXrGih7g3roIqLGT8U0rQlySmLsZDgYfvBEtQUciqKdAUu/2Fq/jewvha3w= > =kY/T > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > > -- > Chris Stone > AxisInternet, Inc. > www.axint.net <http://www.axint.net> > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium-- Chris Stone AxisInternet, Inc. www.axint.net http://www.axint.net
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My post was stuck in the queue? I am subscribed....or should be - I do get messages from the list....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
Might want to actually join the mailing list properly before posting. This post was stuck in the queue.
:)
On 07/11/2012 11:48, Andrew Beals wrote:
Are you running a single poller via cron or the multiple poller setup?
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From: Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:39 AM To: Observium Network Observation System observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation?
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld jason@lixfeld.ca wrote:
Interesting. Problems like what?
On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3
disabled )
Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77
shutdown )
Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0
disabled )
Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a
pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert mrobbert@mines.edu
wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled
)
Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored
190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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No, Andrew Beals' was. *you* might want to learn to parse emails! ;)
adam.
On 21/11/2012 16:13, Chris Stone wrote:
My post was stuck in the queue? I am subscribed....or should be - I do get messages from the list....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote:
Might want to actually join the mailing list properly before posting. This post was stuck in the queue. :) On 07/11/2012 11:48, Andrew Beals wrote:Are you running a single poller via cron or the multiple poller setup? -- Andrew Beals Cell: 913-787-7538 <tel:913-787-7538> Desk: 913-948-8782 <tel:913-948-8782> E-mail: ABeals@mersoft.com <mailto:ABeals@mersoft.com> From: Chris Stone <axisml@gmail.com <mailto:axisml@gmail.com>> Reply-To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Date: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:39 AM To: Observium Network Observation System <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Subject: Re: [Observium] Out of curiosity, how big is everyones installation? On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients.... Chris On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld <jason@lixfeld.ca <mailto:jason@lixfeld.ca>> wrote: Interesting. Problems like what? On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone <axisml@gmail.com <mailto:axisml@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled ) > > Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown ) > > Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) > > Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them.... > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert <mrobbert@mines.edu <mailto:mrobbert@mines.edu>> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) > Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown ) > > 25 GB of RRDs > Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10. > > Mike Robbert > Colorado School of Mines > > On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote: > > Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is > > among the users on the email list. > > > > I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody > > else? > > > > Morgan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ observium mailing > > list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQmnbCAAoJEFmgPOBxQDtBM4EH/js4fqha28VHUzCWMrBGhUvB > b0ScDZfNowmwo33AFq0wsbbhm3MqmsR2tmKtlhnH5M+kkeh6xHiBbtJYrthXP2O0 > s862ygpfU0z3DxLpZxkmtZzyl4P/TvhYYtd4/oeN6DNz6goPGXu68QCO3L5VPka0 > 8UQyv+b4frxJRH5FKjoriFpuMw34Muy4UMl2VTcZyC+qnd4nOQQBeqbVq2S3WTua > QRX18Ros0IAXINL0iGAvzdmjZYPVCtKwNO6LFWHBmwd80x7VlzuW6EjSAU8+CLRK > 3AZaaXrGih7g3roIqLGT8U0rQlySmLsZDgYfvBEtQUciqKdAUu/2Fq/jewvha3w= > =kY/T > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > > -- > Chris Stone > AxisInternet, Inc. > www.axint.net <http://www.axint.net> > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium -- Chris Stone AxisInternet, Inc. www.axint.net <http://www.axint.net> _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium-- Chris Stone AxisInternet, Inc. www.axint.net http://www.axint.net
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Wow, I'm sorry to hear. I moved to Observium from Cacti because Cacti was a pig, the plugins sucked, graphs were half missing, it was a pain in the arse. Mind you, there are a couple of irksome things about Observium, but from what I understand, they won't be fixed because the folks who work on the particular components of what I report as broken (pseudowires, for example) aren't interested in fixing it; which is fair. It's not a feature that I need, just something that would be really cool if it did actually work because keeping track of our pseudowires in a Confluence spreadsheet is pretty ghetto.
The other issue I have with Observium is hostname truncating, but Adam thinks my naming convention is crappy, so I don't stand a chance in hell of getting that fixed :)
I think Observium is better than anything else I've tried. I haven't tried Zabbix in a long time, but last time I did try it, I wasn't too happy with it. Anyway, it's all relative.
On 2012-11-07, at 12:39 PM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld jason@lixfeld.ca wrote: Interesting. Problems like what?
On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled )
Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown )
Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled )
Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert mrobbert@mines.edu wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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On 07/11/2012 11:49, Jason Lixfeld wrote:
Wow, I'm sorry to hear. I moved to Observium from Cacti because Cacti was a pig, the plugins sucked, graphs were half missing, it was a pain in the arse. Mind you, there are a couple of irksome things about Observium, but from what I understand, they won't be fixed because the folks who work on the particular components of what I report as broken (pseudowires, for example) aren't interested in fixing it; which is fair. It's not a feature that I need, just something that would be really cool if it did actually work because keeping track of our pseudowires in a Confluence spreadsheet is pretty ghetto.
It's more that we don't use those features at the moment, and don't have access to pseudowire-using networks, so we can't easily fix them. The last time I touched that code was when i was at JT, in 2009.
The other issue I have with Observium is hostname truncating, but Adam thinks my naming convention is crappy, so I don't stand a chance in hell of getting that fixed :)
It is crappy :)
Where we have restricted space in the GUI for hostnames, we simply remove elements from the end of the hostname until it fits. If you find places where the hostname is being truncated too much, point it out and we might be able to fix it!
I think Observium is better than anything else I've tried. I haven't tried Zabbix in a long time, but last time I did try it, I wasn't too happy with it. Anyway, it's all relative.
The reason we exist is that we didn't like any of the alternatives. They're all too much of a PITA and too ugly.
Sadly everything else is a bit better written than Observium! :DDDDDDDDD
adam.
On 2012-11-07, at 12:39 PM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld jason@lixfeld.ca wrote: Interesting. Problems like what?
On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled )
Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown )
Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled )
Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert mrobbert@mines.edu wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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On 2012-11-07, at 12:53 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 07/11/2012 11:49, Jason Lixfeld wrote:
Wow, I'm sorry to hear. I moved to Observium from Cacti because Cacti was a pig, the plugins sucked, graphs were half missing, it was a pain in the arse. Mind you, there are a couple of irksome things about Observium, but from what I understand, they won't be fixed because the folks who work on the particular components of what I report as broken (pseudowires, for example) aren't interested in fixing it; which is fair. It's not a feature that I need, just something that would be really cool if it did actually work because keeping track of our pseudowires in a Confluence spreadsheet is pretty ghetto.
It's more that we don't use those features at the moment, and don't have access to pseudowire-using networks, so we can't easily fix them. The last time I touched that code was when i was at JT, in 2009.
I'm happy to give you access to a pseudowire-using network!
The other issue I have with Observium is hostname truncating, but Adam thinks my naming convention is crappy, so I don't stand a chance in hell of getting that fixed :)
It is crappy :)
To you! ;)
Where we have restricted space in the GUI for hostnames, we simply remove elements from the end of the hostname until it fits. If you find places where the hostname is being truncated too much, point it out and we might be able to fix it!
Naw, it shows up fully in the right places so I'm satisfied at this point.
I think Observium is better than anything else I've tried. I haven't tried Zabbix in a long time, but last time I did try it, I wasn't too happy with it. Anyway, it's all relative.
The reason we exist is that we didn't like any of the alternatives. They're all too much of a PITA and too ugly.
+1
Sadly everything else is a bit better written than Observium! :DDDDDDDDD
adam.
On 2012-11-07, at 12:39 PM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld jason@lixfeld.ca wrote: Interesting. Problems like what?
On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone axisml@gmail.com wrote:
Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled )
Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown )
Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled )
Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them....
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert mrobbert@mines.edu wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown )
25 GB of RRDs Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10.
Mike Robbert Colorado School of Mines
On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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Let's be hones most monitoring solutions are UGLY, it's just like standard in any monitoring system to be UGLY.
But I glad we have now observium.
On 07.11.2012 21:53, Adam Armstrong wrote:
The reason we exist is that we didn't like any of the alternatives. They're all too much of a PITA and too ugly.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Jason Lixfeld jason@lixfeld.ca wrote:
Wow, I'm sorry to hear. I moved to Observium from Cacti because Cacti was a pig, the plugins sucked, graphs were half missing, it was a pain in the arse. Mind you, there are a couple of irksome things about Observium, but from what I understand, they won't be fixed because the folks who work on the particular components of what I report as broken (pseudowires, for example) aren't interested in fixing it; which is fair. It's not a feature that I need, just something that would be really cool if it did actually work because keeping track of our pseudowires in a Confluence spreadsheet is pretty ghetto.
There are things I'd like to see too in it like Asterisk counters, but understand that I'd need to write that myself - which I don't have time for at present or in the foreseeable future....
The other issue I have with Observium is hostname truncating, but Adam thinks my naming convention is crappy, so I don't stand a chance in hell of getting that fixed :)
Yeah, that bugged me at first since I monitor multiple client machines as well as mine and some have the same names - so truncating makes it harder to tell which is which from a listing...
Would like to see pagination of lists too as some get pretty long....
I think Observium is better than anything else I've tried. I haven't tried Zabbix in a long time, but last time I did try it, I wasn't too happy with it. Anyway, it's all relative.
I thought so as well at first. Looked at Zabbix years ago too and it had potential, but was not where I wanted it to be - so used Cacti for years until I stumbled upon Observium. Zabbix has come a long way from where it was years ago....
Chris
On 07/11/2012 11:39, Chris Stone wrote:
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
I've never seen anything like this happen, and I've seen some pretty fucked up installations!
What exactly happens? Do devices spontaneously lose all of the existing data, do they stop recording data after a while? Is it /every/ graph, or just some?
The only thing I can think of immediately to cause this would be if Observium somehow got a broken date far into the future, which caused rrd to refuse to accept any new data until that point. That would only break code which sends a specific date though, like the ports code.
adam.
Chris
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jason Lixfeld <jason@lixfeld.ca mailto:jason@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
Interesting. Problems like what? On 2012-11-07, at 11:13 AM, Chris Stone <axisml@gmail.com <mailto:axisml@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Devices 85 ( 80 up 0 down 2 ignored 3 disabled ) > > Ports 680 ( 277 up 14 down 312 ignored 77 shutdown ) > > Services 18 ( 18 up 0 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) > > Although we are now moving away from Observium to Zabbix - not a pretty, but too many problems with Observium and no time to try and fix them.... > > > On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Michael Robbert <mrobbert@mines.edu <mailto:mrobbert@mines.edu>> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Devices 267 ( 266 up 1 down 0 ignored 0 disabled ) > Ports 19611 ( 7278 up 11403 down 0 ignored 190 shutdown ) > > 25 GB of RRDs > Dual Quad core E5603 w/ 4GB RAM, 6 10K SAS drives in RAID10. > > Mike Robbert > Colorado School of Mines > > On 11/6/12 5:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote: > > Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is > > among the users on the email list. > > > > I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody > > else? > > > > Morgan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ observium mailing > > list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQmnbCAAoJEFmgPOBxQDtBM4EH/js4fqha28VHUzCWMrBGhUvB > b0ScDZfNowmwo33AFq0wsbbhm3MqmsR2tmKtlhnH5M+kkeh6xHiBbtJYrthXP2O0 > s862ygpfU0z3DxLpZxkmtZzyl4P/TvhYYtd4/oeN6DNz6goPGXu68QCO3L5VPka0 > 8UQyv+b4frxJRH5FKjoriFpuMw34Muy4UMl2VTcZyC+qnd4nOQQBeqbVq2S3WTua > QRX18Ros0IAXINL0iGAvzdmjZYPVCtKwNO6LFWHBmwd80x7VlzuW6EjSAU8+CLRK > 3AZaaXrGih7g3roIqLGT8U0rQlySmLsZDgYfvBEtQUciqKdAUu/2Fq/jewvha3w= > =kY/T > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > > -- > Chris Stone > AxisInternet, Inc. > www.axint.net <http://www.axint.net> > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium-- Chris Stone AxisInternet, Inc. www.axint.net http://www.axint.net
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Adam,
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
On 07/11/2012 11:39, Chris Stone wrote:
On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....
I've never seen anything like this happen, and I've seen some pretty fucked up installations!
What exactly happens? Do devices spontaneously lose all of the existing data, do they stop recording data after a while? Is it /every/ graph, or just some?
It appears to pull data - 'poller.php -d' shows data - lots of valid counters - see no problem there - e.g.:
RRD[update /opt/observium/rrd/hydra.mydomain.com/ucd_load.rrd N:5:2:0] including: includes/polling/ipSystemStats.inc.php Polling IP-MIB ipSystemStats DEBUG: SNMP Auth options = -v2c -c k3fJzJAFeAtCyYKVFNxX /usr/bin/snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c k3fJzJAFeAtCyYKVFNxX -OQUs -m IP-MIB -M /opt/observium/mibs udp:hydra.mydomain.com:161 ipSystemStats ipSystemStatsInReceives.ipv4 = 2124263890 ipSystemStatsInReceives.ipv6 = 19818236 ipSystemStatsHCInReceives.ipv4 = 6419231186 ipSystemStatsHCInReceives.ipv6 = 19818236 ipSystemStatsInOctets.ipv6 = 3931117553 ipSystemStatsHCInOctets.ipv6 = 3931117553 ipSystemStatsInHdrErrors.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInHdrErrors.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInNoRoutes.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInNoRoutes.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInAddrErrors.ipv4 = 99390 ipSystemStatsInAddrErrors.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInUnknownProtos.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInUnknownProtos.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInTruncatedPkts.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInTruncatedPkts.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInForwDatagrams.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInForwDatagrams.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsHCInForwDatagrams.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsHCInForwDatagrams.ipv6 = 0 ....
and the rrd file appears to get updated:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 371152 Oct 17 16:31 /opt/observium/rrd/ hydra.mydomain.com/ucd_load.rrd
But the graphs show no data. They used to and then not. Some systems still show data, it's only a few and seems to be only some Linux servers - differing versions of CentOS.
And I am not even seeing any of my historical data - all graphs show 'nan' for the data including old data that it was showing at one point....
Note too that it seems to be just something with the RRD's since on the device overview page, the graph is blank, but the 'bars' on the right (Processors, Memory Pools and Storage) do so information correctly.
The only thing I can think of immediately to cause this would be if Observium somehow got a broken date far into the future, which caused rrd to refuse to accept any new data until that point. That would only break code which sends a specific date though, like the ports code.
Don't know - how would I check that and/or how would I recover from it without loosing historical data and keep it from happening again?
I'd really prefer to stay with Observium, but my time for this is very limited and .....
Chris
If *existing* data in the RRDs is no longer being read, it might be a corruption issue.
You can check the structure of the rrd with "rrdtool dump <filename>"
Running the poller with -d also shows you the rrdtool command updating the RRDs, does that look ok?
adam.
On 07/11/2012 14:28, Chris Stone wrote:
Adam,
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote:
On 07/11/2012 11:39, Chris Stone wrote:On a few occasions graphs would have no data for some devices. Nuking all of the RRD files and starting that device over for data would 'fix' it, but I loose all historical data. Now I have a dozen or so Linux servers that I am getting blank graphs for. Running poller.php for the devices manually shows data being received and I note no errors. Nuking the RRD files does not fix it though. Might be able to dig in and, maybe, but I have just don't have the time to f*@!k with it - need something I can rely on - used to use Cacti and it was great but a pain setting up new devices. Observium is great and very easy to setup new devices, but this problem that keeps popping up causing historical data loss to fix - or as now, that does not even fix, is not something I can mess with anymore. I do like Observium overall and don't like having to switch away from it, but need the data and something reliable for ourselves and our clients....I've never seen anything like this happen, and I've seen some pretty fucked up installations! What exactly happens? Do devices spontaneously lose all of the existing data, do they stop recording data after a while? Is it /every/ graph, or just some?It appears to pull data - 'poller.php -d' shows data - lots of valid counters - see no problem there - e.g.:
RRD[update /opt/observium/rrd/hydra.mydomain.com/ucd_load.rrd http://hydra.mydomain.com/ucd_load.rrd N:5:2:0] including: includes/polling/ipSystemStats.inc.php Polling IP-MIB ipSystemStats DEBUG: SNMP Auth options = -v2c -c k3fJzJAFeAtCyYKVFNxX /usr/bin/snmpbulkwalk -v2c -c k3fJzJAFeAtCyYKVFNxX -OQUs -m IP-MIB -M /opt/observium/mibs udp:hydra.mydomain.com:161 http://hydra.mydomain.com:161 ipSystemStats ipSystemStatsInReceives.ipv4 = 2124263890 ipSystemStatsInReceives.ipv6 = 19818236 ipSystemStatsHCInReceives.ipv4 = 6419231186 ipSystemStatsHCInReceives.ipv6 = 19818236 ipSystemStatsInOctets.ipv6 = 3931117553 ipSystemStatsHCInOctets.ipv6 = 3931117553 ipSystemStatsInHdrErrors.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInHdrErrors.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInNoRoutes.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInNoRoutes.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInAddrErrors.ipv4 = 99390 ipSystemStatsInAddrErrors.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInUnknownProtos.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInUnknownProtos.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInTruncatedPkts.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInTruncatedPkts.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsInForwDatagrams.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsInForwDatagrams.ipv6 = 0 ipSystemStatsHCInForwDatagrams.ipv4 = 0 ipSystemStatsHCInForwDatagrams.ipv6 = 0 ....
and the rrd file appears to get updated:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 371152 Oct 17 16:31 /opt/observium/rrd/hydra.mydomain.com/ucd_load.rrd http://hydra.mydomain.com/ucd_load.rrd
But the graphs show no data. They used to and then not. Some systems still show data, it's only a few and seems to be only some Linux servers - differing versions of CentOS.
And I am not even seeing any of my historical data - all graphs show 'nan' for the data including old data that it was showing at one point....
Note too that it seems to be just something with the RRD's since on the device overview page, the graph is blank, but the 'bars' on the right (Processors, Memory Pools and Storage) do so information correctly.
The only thing I can think of immediately to cause this would be if Observium somehow got a broken date far into the future, which caused rrd to refuse to accept any new data until that point. That would only break code which sends a specific date though, like the ports code.Don't know - how would I check that and/or how would I recover from it without loosing historical data and keep it from happening again?
I'd really prefer to stay with Observium, but my time for this is very limited and .....
Chris
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Currently 69 devices and just shy of 16k ports.
Berant
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrx230@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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I'm doing some (promising thus far) testing with the new poller that was just posted to the list. It's looking like it's finally going to allow me to scale this baby up a good bit.
End goal, I've got ~1000ish devices I'm hoping to fold into Observium. Time will tell. I'm iterating through doing some bulk-adds now and should know some better device-count/load-metrics on the box soon.
Currently at Devices: 322 & Ports: 36622 ...
Cheers, -Chris
On 11/6/12 7:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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That script will be integrated into the repository soon, stand by :)
adam.
On 08/11/2012 21:42, Chris Moody wrote:
I'm doing some (promising thus far) testing with the new poller that was just posted to the list. It's looking like it's finally going to allow me to scale this baby up a good bit.
End goal, I've got ~1000ish devices I'm hoping to fold into Observium. Time will tell. I'm iterating through doing some bulk-adds now and should know some better device-count/load-metrics on the box soon.
Currently at Devices: 322 & Ports: 36622 ...
Cheers, -Chris
On 11/6/12 7:07 PM, Morgan McLean wrote:
Just curious what the average size of an observium installation is among the users on the email list.
I have ~150 devices with ~6000 ports across three sites. Anybody else?
Morgan
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Devices 270 Ports 14069 ( 2521 up 5391 down 0 ignored 215 shutdown)
12 cores 8 GB Ram
using poller-wrapper
Only core network equipment...
Devices 71 Ports 4181 ( 2302 up 1601 down 0 ignored 169 shutdown )
Virtual Machine 2 Cores 2 GB Ram
/opt/observium/ is 9.3G
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