Re: [Observium] observium Digest, Vol 104, Issue 13
Alert Changes in newest subscription update?
Hello all. I'm fairly green with Linux as well as Observium. I stood up the community edition on Centos 3.10.0-957.1.3.el7.x86_64 and found it to be a very useful tool. Management supported moving to subscription.
I have various alert checkers setup and everything seemed to be very happy and good until updating to revision 9727 on 2/28/2019. It seemed like Observium started becoming more "sensitive" to things and has generated false positives on devices being down when they actually aren't.
I tried locating release notes on the revision to see if any changes were made to alerting, to no avail. I just ran another update this morning and we are now on 9775. I guess what I'm asking is if there were changes to alerting / polling that may require me to tweak my settings.
Thank you in advance for any insight...and this is an absolutely terrific tool. The subscription price is a steal compared to other commercial packages available that are 10 times the cost and about 100 times less useful.
Very Respectfully,
Kenneth R. Friend II Sonnax Transmission Company, Inc. (802) 463-0287
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1. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Adam Armstrong) 2. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Ryan Huff) 3. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Simon Mousey Smith) 4. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Ryan Huff) 5. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Adam Armstrong) 6. Observium Enterprise (Joelly, Alexander) 7. Re: Observium Enterprise (Adam Armstrong) 8. Re: Observium Enterprise (Storer, Darren) 9. Re: Observium Enterprise (Joelly, Alexander) 10. Re: Observium Enterprise (Joelly, Alexander)
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:12:00 +0000 From: "Adam Armstrong" adama@memetic.org To: "Colin Stubbs via observium" observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Ubuntu Distro Upgrade Message-ID: a61235d7-5347-40aa-b664-069ccedccc35@getmailbird.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
No problems from us, we much prefer 18.04.
Good luck with Ubuntu surviving, though! :)
adam.
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Currently we are running Observium Pro 19.2.9712 (stable) on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Can I run a Distro upgrade to 18.04.2 without any problems?
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:23:01 +0000 From: Ryan Huff ryanhuff@outlook.com To: Observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Ubuntu Distro Upgrade Message-ID: BN6PR08MB2724A2564291DF3B6DAF3F90C54B0@BN6PR08MB2724.namprd08.prod.outlook.com
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Get familiar with netplan before upgrading Ubuntu ;). Lots of significant changes between 16 lts and 18 lts
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:12, Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
Hi,
No problems from us, we much prefer 18.04.
Good luck with Ubuntu surviving, though! :)
adam.
On 2019-03-13 10:19:37, Peter Derissen via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Hello,
Currently we are running Observium Pro 19.2.9712 (stable) on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Can I run a Distro upgrade to 18.04.2 without any problems?
Met vriendelijke groet,
Peter Derissen Eurofiber Nederland Network Engineer Safariweg 25-31 +31 (0)6 11587110 3605 MA Maarssen
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:24:50 +0000 From: Simon Mousey Smith simonsmith5521@gmail.com To: Observium observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Ubuntu Distro Upgrade Message-ID: 08E889D6-FCC0-4DE1-B8AE-BB9A259FC243@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
I learned that the hard way (upgraded our docker hosts from 16 to 18)
Netplan isn’t easy if you dont understand it
Regards
Simon
On 14 Mar 2019, at 14:23, Ryan Huff via observium observium@observium.org wrote:
Get familiar with netplan before upgrading Ubuntu ;). Lots of significant changes between 16 lts and 18 lts
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:12, Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
Hi,
No problems from us, we much prefer 18.04.
Good luck with Ubuntu surviving, though! :)
adam.
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Hello,
Currently we are running Observium Pro 19.2.9712 (stable) on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
Can I run a Distro upgrade to 18.04.2 without any problems?
Met vriendelijke groet,
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:48:25 +0000 From: Ryan Huff ryanhuff@outlook.com To: Observium observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Ubuntu Distro Upgrade Message-ID: BN6PR08MB2724C730BD25E0E28C6F4013C54B0@BN6PR08MB2724.namprd08.prod.outlook.com
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Research Yaml... spacing matters ;).
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:25, Simon Mousey Smith via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
I learned that the hard way (upgraded our docker hosts from 16 to 18)
Netplan isn’t easy if you dont understand it
Regards
Simon
On 14 Mar 2019, at 14:23, Ryan Huff via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
Get familiar with netplan before upgrading Ubuntu ;). Lots of significant changes between 16 lts and 18 lts
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:12, Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:
Hi,
No problems from us, we much prefer 18.04.
Good luck with Ubuntu surviving, though! :)
adam.
On 2019-03-13 10:19:37, Peter Derissen via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Hello,
Currently we are running Observium Pro 19.2.9712 (stable) on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Can I run a Distro upgrade to 18.04.2 without any problems?
Met vriendelijke groet,
Peter Derissen Eurofiber Nederland Network Engineer Safariweg 25-31 +31 (0)6 11587110 3605 MA Maarssen
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:51:28 +0000 From: "Adam Armstrong" adama@memetic.org To: "Ryan Huff via observium" observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Ubuntu Distro Upgrade Message-ID: e44e6c4f-3a43-4a45-8d37-a81f6000ff89@getmailbird.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
The state of modern Linux makes me sad.
They say you always become the thing you hate, and Linux has become Windows. Voodoo configuration and black box undocumented behaviours.
adam. On 2019-03-14 14:48:35, Ryan Huff via observium observium@observium.org wrote: Research Yaml... spacing matters ;).
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:25, Simon Mousey Smith via observium <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> wrote:
I learned that the hard way (upgraded our docker hosts from 16 to 18)
Netplan isn’t easy if you dont understand it
Regards
Simon
On 14 Mar 2019, at 14:23, Ryan Huff via observium <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> wrote:
Get familiar with netplan before upgrading Ubuntu ;). Lots of significant changes between 16 lts and 18 lts
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 14, 2019, at 10:12, Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.org [mailto:observium@observium.org]> wrote:
Hi,
No problems from us, we much prefer 18.04.
Good luck with Ubuntu surviving, though! :)
adam.
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Currently we are running Observium Pro 19.2.9712 (stable) on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Can I run a Distro upgrade to 18.04.2 without any problems?
Met vriendelijke groet,
Peter Derissen Eurofiber Nederland Network Engineer Safariweg 25-31 +31 (0)6 11587110 3605 MA Maarssen
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Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 17:03:36 +0000 From: "Joelly, Alexander" Alexander.Joelly@magna.com To: "observium@observium.org" observium@observium.org Subject: [Observium] Observium Enterprise Message-ID: AM6PR02MB5013B46DC02FB618FE9A41118A4B0@AM6PR02MB5013.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com
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Hello,
Is there a docu or install guide for the distributed setup? I have manually installed the rrd and mysql server - the install script only has the option to install the community, pro stable, pro rolling and unix agent. How to I install the gui server and pollers properly that they are all getting updated? Do I have to run the install script on every poller and remove the packages I do not need on them - like mysql server?
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Message: 7 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 23:58:21 +0000 From: "Adam Armstrong" adama@memetic.org To: "Joelly, Alexander via observium" observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Observium Enterprise Message-ID: 8478cc8a-47c0-458c-af22-fc4ef016f754@getmailbird.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Alexander,
These are very new features, and the documentation is trailing a little. I think the documentation for the distributed setup on the site is still only partially complete. As is the way when you have to decide between code and documentation! :)
At the moment the script doesn't have an option to install a "partial" install, but a regular one will do fine. You can remove mysql and apache after the install.
When updating the master and slave instances, you only need to do "./discovery.php -u" on the master, since that's where all of the data is held. The rest only need svn up for code updates.
adam. On 2019-03-14 17:03:55, Joelly, Alexander via observium observium@observium.org wrote: Hello,
Is there a docu or install guide for the distributed setup? I have manually installed the rrd and mysql server – the install script only has the option to install the community, pro stable, pro rolling and unix agent. How to I install the gui server and pollers properly that they are all getting updated? Do I have to run the install script on every poller and remove the packages I do not need on them – like mysql server?
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Message: 8 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 00:12:17 +0000 From: "Storer, Darren" darren.storer@gmail.com To: Observium observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Observium Enterprise Message-ID: CAHBhi2HNg_2Sh4Sv1qEPC65TVnA9FBn6BQHVDeOkn2m+tKN8Ww@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Alex,
Have you ever updated Professional to Enterprise? We've got quite a few years of legacy data in our Professional instance and of course, we'd like to retain all of that during the migration to Enterprise.
Please post again about your progress with distributed Enterprise - that's the next challenge over here.
Many thanks
Darren
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 17:04, Joelly, Alexander via observium < observium@observium.org> wrote:
Hello,
Is there a docu or install guide for the distributed setup? I have manually installed the rrd and mysql server – the install script only has the option to install the community, pro stable, pro rolling and unix agent. How to I install the gui server and pollers properly that they are all getting updated? Do I have to run the install script on every poller and remove the packages I do not need on them – like mysql server?
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Message: 9 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 09:14:42 +0000 From: "Joelly, Alexander" Alexander.Joelly@magna.com To: Observium observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Observium Enterprise Message-ID: AM6PR02MB5013308E42225CEEC7794C328A440@AM6PR02MB5013.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com
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Thanks Adam, yeah – noticed the enterprise version and distributed polling is new and highly appreciate that features. I’ve installed one manually and one with the script – only wanted to make sure I’m not doing anything wrong or messing up something.
We have a datacenter in US, EU and CN where the RRDCache and MySQL instance is running in EU and I want to deploy two or three pollers in every other datacenter. Anyone using MySQL active/active or Galera cluster or is it recommended to stick with a single MySQL server?
Thanks, Alex
From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Adam Armstrong via observium
Hi Alexander,
These are very new features, and the documentation is trailing a little. I think the documentation for the distributed setup on the site is still only partially complete. As is the way when you have to decide between code and documentation! :)
At the moment the script doesn't have an option to install a "partial" install, but a regular one will do fine. You can remove mysql and apache after the install.
When updating the master and slave instances, you only need to do "./discovery.php -u" on the master, since that's where all of the data is held. The rest only need svn up for code updates.
adam.
On 2019-03-14 17:03:55, Joelly, Alexander via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Hello,
Is there a docu or install guide for the distributed setup? I have manually installed the rrd and mysql server – the install script only has the option to install the community, pro stable, pro rolling and unix agent. How to I install the gui server and pollers properly that they are all getting updated? Do I have to run the install script on every poller and remove the packages I do not need on them – like mysql server?
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Message: 10 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:59:25 +0000 From: "Joelly, Alexander" Alexander.Joelly@magna.com To: Observium observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Observium Enterprise Message-ID: AM6PR02MB501344F39D1C7FB80168D3FA8A440@AM6PR02MB5013.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com
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Hi Darren,
No, it’s a fresh install – I was using the community version for nearly two years and I’m quite happy with it. Since the community version is running on Wheezy I’m doing a fresh install on Stretch.
Alex
From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Storer, Darren via observium
Hi Alex,
Have you ever updated Professional to Enterprise? We've got quite a few years of legacy data in our Professional instance and of course, we'd like to retain all of that during the migration to Enterprise.
Please post again about your progress with distributed Enterprise - that's the next challenge over here.
Many thanks
Darren
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 at 17:04, Joelly, Alexander via observium <observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Hello,
Is there a docu or install guide for the distributed setup? I have manually installed the rrd and mysql server – the install script only has the option to install the community, pro stable, pro rolling and unix agent. How to I install the gui server and pollers properly that they are all getting updated? Do I have to run the install script on every poller and remove the packages I do not need on them – like mysql server?
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Hi Ken,
thanks for your feedback.
Ken R. Friend via observium wrote on 15/03/2019 17:09:
Alert Changes in newest subscription update?
Hello all. I'm fairly green with Linux as well as Observium. I stood up the community edition on Centos 3.10.0-957.1.3.el7.x86_64 and found it to be a very useful tool. Management supported moving to subscription.
I have various alert checkers setup and everything seemed to be very happy and good until updating to revision 9727 on 2/28/2019. It seemed like Observium started becoming more "sensitive" to things and has generated false positives on devices being down when they actually aren't.
Really, I not remember changes that could affect increase frequency alerts generation (and somehow influence the sensitivity). Most likely this is due to network delays or problems on the server itself.
You was do recommended server improvements like: RRDCached - https://docs.observium.org/rrdcached/ Overall system tuning - https://docs.observium.org/tuning/ Poller optimization - https://docs.observium.org/poller/
And show (screenshots) which exactly alert checkers changed their behaviour.
I tried locating release notes on the revision to see if any changes were made to alerting, to no avail. I just ran another update this morning and we are now on 9775. I guess what I'm asking is if there were changes to alerting / polling that may require me to tweak my settings.
Thank you in advance for any insight...and this is an absolutely terrific tool. The subscription price is a steal compared to other commercial packages available that are 10 times the cost and about 100 times less useful.
Very Respectfully,
Kenneth R. Friend II Sonnax Transmission Company, Inc. (802) 463-0287
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1. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Adam Armstrong) 2. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Ryan Huff) 3. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Simon Mousey Smith) 4. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Ryan Huff) 5. Re: Ubuntu Distro Upgrade (Adam Armstrong) 6. Observium Enterprise (Joelly, Alexander) 7. Re: Observium Enterprise (Adam Armstrong) 8. Re: Observium Enterprise (Storer, Darren) 9. Re: Observium Enterprise (Joelly, Alexander)
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 14:12:00 +0000 From: "Adam Armstrong" adama@memetic.org To: "Colin Stubbs via observium" observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] Ubuntu Distro Upgrade Message-ID: a61235d7-5347-40aa-b664-069ccedccc35@getmailbird.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
No problems from us, we much prefer 18.04.
Good luck with Ubuntu surviving, though! :)
adam.
Sent from Mailbird [http://www.getmailbird.com/?utm_source=Mailbird&utm_medium=email&utm...] On 2019-03-13 10:19:37, Peter Derissen via observium observium@observium.org wrote: Hello,
Currently we are running Observium Pro 19.2.9712 (stable) on Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS Can I run a Distro upgrade to 18.04.2 without any problems?
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