Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
I've noticed a typing error
Snmpget -v 1 -c public portal.nadlinger.at .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Oberreiter Andreas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:53 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Snmpget -v 1 -c public portail.nadlinger.at .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 Should answer SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:00 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Hi,
can you privide temporary snmp access to this device?
I will do this faster :)
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
I've added print_message lines to see if my code is called.
When I try another device e.g. a zyxel device I can see my code is executed.
But when I try the device in question the discovery code isn't executed.
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2017 17:21 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
This device also not have sysDescr.0 too?
You also should add os detecting file (from $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os']): includes/discovery/os/messpc.inc.php
with content like this:
<?php
if (!$os) { // SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62" $data = snmp_get($device, '.1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0', '-Osqnv'); if (strlen($data)) { $os = 'messpc'; } }
// EOF
And better os name: messpc-env
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
Hi,
The Device is from http://www.messpc.de
I've tried to add the following lines to includes/definitions/os.inc.php // MessPC $os = "messpc"; $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "MessPC Etherbox"; $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "MessPC"; $config['os'][$os]['type'] = "environment"; $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "messpc"; $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] = ".1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0"; $config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "ETHERBOX-MIB";
I've put the ETHERBIX-MIB file in mibs/messpc/ETHERBOX-MIB
and restarted the Webserver. Then I tried to add the device again no change.
I can do a snmpwalk -v 1 -c public IP .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848
The result of snmpget -v 1 -c public 172.30.7.2 .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 is SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
What did I wrong? I'm on the latest commercial Version 17.4.8476
Kind Regards Andreas
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Freitag, 28. April 2017 15:02 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Hi,
seems as another china/indian device? ;)
For valid device adding required one of this OIDs to be exist on device: sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0
If both OIDs not exist for device, use 'snmpable' os param. See example for os 'hikvision-cam':
$os = "hikvision-cam"; $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "Hikvision Network Camera"; $config['os'][$os]['type'] = "video"; $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "Hikvision"; $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "hikvision"; $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] = ".1.3.6.1.4.1.39165.1.1.0"; // This device complete not have sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0 $config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "HIK-DEVICE-MIB";
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
Hi All,
I have a device which doesn't provide the SysObjectId.0. It start right away with the Enterprise entry's: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
Is there a way to add such an device? The values I'm interested in are in the enterprise part of the mib and could be easily retreated by a custom OID.
But without an SysObjectId it seems impossible to add a device.
Any Suggestions?
Kind regards Andras
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I noticed QFX stops reporting this value after upgrading to newer junos and changed to Generic os from junos. Has anyone else seen this behaviour on QFX on JUNOS16.1R3 ? MX seems ok. I've added a local mod for now to use sysDescr of '/^Juniper Networks/' which has restored the ability to detect it. Maybe it's a junos bug or a new feature to hide the SysObjectId, or maybe worth adding sysDescr junos detection incase of SysObjectId failing?
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:10 AM, Oberreiter Andreas < a.oberreiter@nadlinger.at> wrote:
I've noticed a typing error
Snmpget -v 1 -c public portal.nadlinger.at .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Oberreiter Andreas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:53 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Snmpget -v 1 -c public portail.nadlinger.at .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 Should answer SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:00 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Hi,
can you privide temporary snmp access to this device?
I will do this faster :)
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
I've added print_message lines to see if my code is called.
When I try another device e.g. a zyxel device I can see my code is
executed.
But when I try the device in question the discovery code isn't executed.
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2017 17:21 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
This device also not have sysDescr.0 too?
You also should add os detecting file (from $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os']): includes/discovery/os/messpc.inc.php
with content like this:
<?php
if (!$os) { // SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62" $data = snmp_get($device, '.1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0', '-Osqnv'); if (strlen($data)) { $os = 'messpc'; } }
// EOF
And better os name: messpc-env
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
Hi,
The Device is from http://www.messpc.de
I've tried to add the following lines to includes/definitions/os.inc.php // MessPC $os = "messpc"; $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "MessPC Etherbox"; $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "MessPC"; $config['os'][$os]['type'] = "environment"; $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "messpc"; $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] =
".1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0";
$config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "ETHERBOX-MIB";
I've put the ETHERBIX-MIB file in mibs/messpc/ETHERBOX-MIB
and restarted the Webserver. Then I tried to add the device again no
change.
I can do a snmpwalk -v 1 -c public IP .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848
The result of snmpget -v 1 -c public 172.30.7.2 .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 is SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
What did I wrong? I'm on the latest commercial Version 17.4.8476
Kind Regards Andreas
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Freitag, 28. April 2017 15:02 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Hi,
seems as another china/indian device? ;)
For valid device adding required one of this OIDs to be exist on device: sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0
If both OIDs not exist for device, use 'snmpable' os param. See example for os 'hikvision-cam':
$os = "hikvision-cam"; $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "Hikvision Network
Camera";
$config['os'][$os]['type'] = "video"; $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "Hikvision"; $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "hikvision"; $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] = ".1.3.6.1.4.1.39165.1.1.0"; // This device complete not have sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0 $config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "HIK-DEVICE-MIB";
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
Hi All,
I have a device which doesn't provide the SysObjectId.0. It start right away with the Enterprise entry's: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
Is there a way to add such an device? The values I'm interested in are
in the enterprise part of the mib and could be easily retreated by a custom OID.
But without an SysObjectId it seems impossible to add a device.
Any Suggestions?
Kind regards Andras
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Hi Chris,
This is definitely a bug you need to pick up with JTAC. Sounds weird though.
Tom
On 06/27/2017 08:20 PM, Chris Laffin wrote:
I noticed QFX stops reporting this value after upgrading to newer junos and changed to Generic os from junos. Has anyone else seen this behaviour on QFX on JUNOS16.1R3 ? MX seems ok. I've added a local mod for now to use sysDescr of '/^Juniper Networks/' which has restored the ability to detect it. Maybe it's a junos bug or a new feature to hide the SysObjectId, or maybe worth adding sysDescr junos detection incase of SysObjectId failing?
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:10 AM, Oberreiter Andreas <a.oberreiter@nadlinger.at mailto:a.oberreiter@nadlinger.at> wrote:
I've noticed a typing error Snmpget -v 1 -c public portal.nadlinger.at <http://portal.nadlinger.at> .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>] Im Auftrag von Oberreiter Andreas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:53 An: Observium Public Support <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0 Snmpget -v 1 -c public portail.nadlinger.at <http://portail.nadlinger.at> .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 Should answer SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62" -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:00 An: Observium Public Support <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0 Hi, can you privide temporary snmp access to this device? I will do this faster :) Oberreiter Andreas wrote: > I've added print_message lines to see if my code is called. > > When I try another device e.g. a zyxel device I can see my code is executed. > > But when I try the device in question the discovery code isn't executed. > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>] Im Auftrag von > Mike Stupalov > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2017 17:21 > An: Observium Public Support <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> > Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0 > > This device also not have sysDescr.0 too? > > You also should add os detecting file (from > $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os']): > includes/discovery/os/messpc.inc.php > > with content like this: > > <?php > > if (!$os) > { > // SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62" > $data = snmp_get($device, '.1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0', '-Osqnv'); > if (strlen($data)) > { > $os = 'messpc'; > } > } > > // EOF > > And better os name: messpc-env > > Oberreiter Andreas wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The Device is from http://www.messpc.de >> >> I've tried to add the following lines to >> includes/definitions/os.inc.php // MessPC $os = "messpc"; >> $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "MessPC Etherbox"; >> $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "MessPC"; >> $config['os'][$os]['type'] = "environment"; >> $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "messpc"; >> $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] = ".1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0"; >> $config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "ETHERBOX-MIB"; >> >> I've put the ETHERBIX-MIB file in mibs/messpc/ETHERBOX-MIB >> >> and restarted the Webserver. Then I tried to add the device again no change. >> >> I can do a snmpwalk -v 1 -c public IP .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848 >> >> The result of >> snmpget -v 1 -c public 172.30.7.2 .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 is >> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62" >> >> What did I wrong? >> I'm on the latest commercial Version 17.4.8476 >> >> Kind Regards >> Andreas >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org <mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org>] Im Auftrag >> von Mike Stupalov >> Gesendet: Freitag, 28. April 2017 15:02 >> An: Observium Public Support <observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org>> >> Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0 >> >> Hi, >> >> seems as another china/indian device? ;) >> >> For valid device adding required one of this OIDs to be exist on device: >> sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0 >> >> If both OIDs not exist for device, use 'snmpable' os param. >> See example for os 'hikvision-cam': >> >> $os = "hikvision-cam"; >> $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "Hikvision Network Camera"; >> $config['os'][$os]['type'] = "video"; >> $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "Hikvision"; >> $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "hikvision"; >> $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] = >> ".1.3.6.1.4.1.39165.1.1.0"; // This device complete not have >> sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0 >> $config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "HIK-DEVICE-MIB"; >> >> >> Oberreiter Andreas wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I have a device which doesn't provide the SysObjectId.0. >>> It start right away with the Enterprise entry's: >>> SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62" >>> >>> Is there a way to add such an device? The values I'm interested in are in the enterprise part of the mib and could be easily retreated by a custom OID. >>> >>> But without an SysObjectId it seems impossible to add a device. >>> >>> Any Suggestions? >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Andras >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> observium mailing list >>> observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> >>> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium> > > -- > Mike Stupalov > Observium Limited, http://observium.org > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium> > > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium> -- Mike Stupalov Observium Limited, http://observium.org _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium> _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium> _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium>
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I had the same issue with SRX and this is firmware Bug I think.
From: Chris Laffin [mailto:chris.laffin@automattic.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 8:21 PM To: Observium Public Support Subject: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
I noticed QFX stops reporting this value after upgrading to newer junos and changed to Generic os from junos. Has anyone else seen this behaviour on QFX on JUNOS16.1R3 ? MX seems ok. I've added a local mod for now to use sysDescr of '/^Juniper Networks/' which has restored the ability to detect it. Maybe it's a junos bug or a new feature to hide the SysObjectId, or maybe worth adding sysDescr junos detection incase of SysObjectId failing?
On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:10 AM, Oberreiter Andreas a.oberreiter@nadlinger.at wrote:
I've noticed a typing error
Snmpget -v 1 -c public portal.nadlinger.at .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Oberreiter Andreas Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:53
An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Snmpget -v 1 -c public portail.nadlinger.at .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 Should answer SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Mai 2017 10:00 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Hi,
can you privide temporary snmp access to this device?
I will do this faster :)
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
I've added print_message lines to see if my code is called.
When I try another device e.g. a zyxel device I can see my code is executed.
But when I try the device in question the discovery code isn't executed.
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Mai 2017 17:21 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
This device also not have sysDescr.0 too?
You also should add os detecting file (from $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os']): includes/discovery/os/messpc.inc.php
with content like this:
<?php
if (!$os) { // SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62" $data = snmp_get($device, '.1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0', '-Osqnv'); if (strlen($data)) { $os = 'messpc'; } }
// EOF
And better os name: messpc-env
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
Hi,
The Device is from http://www.messpc.de
I've tried to add the following lines to includes/definitions/os.inc.php // MessPC $os = "messpc"; $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "MessPC Etherbox"; $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "MessPC"; $config['os'][$os]['type'] = "environment"; $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "messpc"; $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] = ".1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0"; $config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "ETHERBOX-MIB";
I've put the ETHERBIX-MIB file in mibs/messpc/ETHERBOX-MIB
and restarted the Webserver. Then I tried to add the device again no change.
I can do a snmpwalk -v 1 -c public IP .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848
The result of snmpget -v 1 -c public 172.30.7.2 .1.3.6.1.4.1.14848.2.1.1.1.0 is SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
What did I wrong? I'm on the latest commercial Version 17.4.8476
Kind Regards Andreas
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Mike Stupalov Gesendet: Freitag, 28. April 2017 15:02 An: Observium Public Support observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SNMP Device without sysObjectId.0
Hi,
seems as another china/indian device? ;)
For valid device adding required one of this OIDs to be exist on device: sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0
If both OIDs not exist for device, use 'snmpable' os param. See example for os 'hikvision-cam':
$os = "hikvision-cam"; $config['os'][$os]['text'] = "Hikvision Network Camera"; $config['os'][$os]['type'] = "video"; $config['os'][$os]['vendor'] = "Hikvision"; $config['os'][$os]['discovery_os'] = "hikvision"; $config['os'][$os]['snmpable'][] = ".1.3.6.1.4.1.39165.1.1.0"; // This device complete not have sysObjectID.0 or sysUpTime.0 $config['os'][$os]['mibs'][] = "HIK-DEVICE-MIB";
Oberreiter Andreas wrote:
Hi All,
I have a device which doesn't provide the SysObjectId.0. It start right away with the Enterprise entry's: SNMPv2-SMI::enterprises.14848.2.1.1.1.0 = STRING: "Version 1.62"
Is there a way to add such an device? The values I'm interested in are in the enterprise part of the mib and could be easily retreated by a custom OID.
But without an SysObjectId it seems impossible to add a device.
Any Suggestions?
Kind regards Andras
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