RANCID tab gone after update to 8068
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As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;)
Adam.
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On 25 Aug 2016, 12:57, at 12:57, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is
gone.
Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config
file
too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url:
"/tab=showtech/"),
ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;)
Adam.
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On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;)
Adam.
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On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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What /is/ in the router.db?
Adam.
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On 30 Aug 2016, 14:39, at 14:39, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium
update
could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error
in
/var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is
a
problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org
wrote:
Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part
of
observium ;)
Adam.
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On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright
wrote:
MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which
appears
super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory:
*/var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/*
File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the
observium.yearmonthday
log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating
a log
file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our
config
directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is
gone.
Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents
and
everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the
config file
too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly!
bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc
We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
What /is/ in the router.db?
Adam.
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On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote:
I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;)
Adam.
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On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote:
MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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Robbie,
Looks like you upgraded your RANCID install then?
You can change to ; in the Observium configuration, but this was not caused by an Observium upgrade.
Tom
On 30/08/2016 21:55, Robbie Wright wrote:
# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly!
bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc
We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote:
What /is/ in the router.db? Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log? property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db? Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium* starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016 property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db? Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: Hi, Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;) Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this: Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net <http://pud-gw1.tld.net> Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net <http://pud-gw1.tld.net>* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found. Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file: property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db? Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now.... Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov <mike@observium.org <mailto:mike@observium.org>> wrote: Hi, On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used? Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/ <https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/>
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Did you update your actual router.db file to use semicolons? The Observium script may be hitting an error because it's expecting a semicolon because you have a newer version, but your router.db is still using colons.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:
Robbie,
Looks like you upgraded your RANCID install then?
You can change to ; in the Observium configuration, but this was not caused by an Observium upgrade.
Tom
On 30/08/2016 21:55, Robbie Wright wrote:
# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/ generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly!
bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc
We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
What /is/ in the router.db?
Adam.
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On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote:
I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;)
Adam.
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On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote:
MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
> Hi, > > On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote: > > As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is > gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and > everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file > too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update? > > Which user level used? > > Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: > "/tab=showtech/"), ie: > https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/ > > > On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is > reporting 8068. > > Robbie Wright > Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com > 541-902-5101 > > > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing listobservium@observium.orghttp://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > -- > Mike Stupalovhttp://observium.org > > ______________________________ _________________ observium mailing > list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi > -bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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Derek,
The Observium script isn't that smart ;-) It just writes out a router.db based on its database. We default to RANCID v2 's : as separator, RANCID v3 changes this to ; (why?!)
Tom
On 30/08/2016 22:32, Derek wrote:
Did you update your actual router.db file to use semicolons? The Observium script may be hitting an error because it's expecting a semicolon because you have a newer version, but your router.db is still using colons.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> wrote:
Robbie, Looks like you upgraded your RANCID install then? You can change to ; in the Observium configuration, but this was not caused by an Observium upgrade. Tom On 30/08/2016 21:55, Robbie Wright wrote:
# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly! bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: What /is/ in the router.db? Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log? property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db? Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium* starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016 property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db? Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: Hi, Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;) Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this: Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net <http://pud-gw1.tld.net> Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net <http://pud-gw1.tld.net>* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found. Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file: property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db? Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now.... Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov <mike@observium.org <mailto:mike@observium.org>> wrote: Hi, On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used? Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/ <https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/>
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org <mailto:observium@observium.org> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium <http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium>
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adam. On 30/08/2016 15:37:35, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote: Derek,
The Observium script isn't that smart ;-) It just writes out a router.db based on its database. We default to RANCID v2 's : as separator, RANCID v3 changes this to ; (why?!)
Tom
On 30/08/2016 22:32, Derek wrote:
Did you update your actual router.db file to use semicolons? The Observium script may be hitting an error because it's expecting a semicolon because you have a newer version, but your router.db is still using colons.
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx [mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx]> wrote:
Robbie,
Looks like you upgraded your RANCID install then?
You can change to ; in the Observium configuration, but this was not caused by an Observium upgrade.
Tom
On 30/08/2016 21:55, Robbie Wright wrote:
# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly!
bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc
We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com] 541-902-5101 [tel:541-902-5101]
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> wrote:
What /is/ in the router.db? Adam. Sent from BlueMail [http://www.bluemail.me/r]
On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com [mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com]> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com] 541-902-5101 [tel:541-902-5101]
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com [mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com]> wrote:
I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com] 541-902-5101 [tel:541-902-5101]
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> wrote:
Hi, Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;) Adam. Sent from BlueMail [http://www.bluemail.me/r]
On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com [mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com]> wrote: MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net [http://pud-gw1.tld.net] Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: /var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/ File /var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net [http://pud-gw1.tld.net] not found. File /var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1 not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com] 541-902-5101 [tel:541-902-5101]
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov <mike@observium.org [mailto:mike@observium.org]> wrote:
Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update? Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/ [https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/]
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com] 541-902-5101 [tel:541-902-5101]
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If you read the code that is generating you rancid config file there is a big clue in there for you, i.e. in observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php:
if (isset($config['rancid_version']) && strpos($config['rancid_version'], '3') !== FALSE) { // v3 delimiter $delimiter = ';'; } else { // v2 delimiter $delimiter = ':'; }
On 31 Aug 2016, at 5:55 AM, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly!
bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc
We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam.
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote: What /is/ in the router.db?
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On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com/ 541-902-5101 tel:541-902-5101 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote: I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com/ 541-902-5101 tel:541-902-5101 On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org mailto:adama@memetic.org> wrote: Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;)
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On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote: MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net/ Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: /var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/ File /var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net/ not found. File /var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1 not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com/ 541-902-5101 tel:541-902-5101 On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov <mike@observium.org mailto:mike@observium.org> wrote: Hi,
On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote:
As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update?
Which user level used?
Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: "/tab=showtech/"), ie: https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/ https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/
On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is reporting 8068.
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Derek, yes, we updated the router.db file to use semi-colons and are waiting for the cron job to run and see if it works without throwing an error.
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
What makes Obersvium decide to hide or display the config tab on a device? Just the presence of a valid backup in rancid?
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Horth dan@horth.com.au wrote:
If you read the code that is generating you rancid config file there is a big clue in there for you, i.e. in observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php:
if (isset($config['rancid_version']) && strpos($config['rancid_version'], '3') !== FALSE) { // v3 delimiter $delimiter = ';'; } else { // v2 delimiter $delimiter = ':';
}
On 31 Aug 2016, at 5:55 AM, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/ generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly!
bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc
We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com/ 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
What /is/ in the router.db?
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On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com/ 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:57 AM, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote:
I don't disagree Adam. Just trying to figure out how an observium update could do that. I'm by no means a rancid expert, but this is the error in /var/log/rancid/observium*
starting: Fri Aug 26 00:00:01 PDT 2016
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Observium is creating the router.db file and it would appear there is a problem with that file.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com/ 541-902-5101
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Adam Armstrong adama@memetic.org wrote:
Hi,
Seems like you may have somehow broken rancid, which is ofc not part of observium ;)
Adam.
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On 25 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Robbie Wright < robbie@siuslawbroadband.com> wrote:
MIke, what do you mean by user level? The show tech tab, which appears super useful btw has this:
Hostname: pud-gw1.tld.net Short hostname: pud-gw1 Hostname different from short hostname, looking for both Looking in configured directory: */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/* File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1.tld.net http://pud-gw1.tld.net/* not found. File */var/lib/rancid/observium/configs/pud-gw1* not found.
Trying to chase this down, I've got this in the observium.yearmonthday log file:
property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
Running rancid 3.3 btw, which appears to be the most up to date on Ubuntu 16.04. Cron looks like it is running correctly and creating a log file ever time it runs and they all look like this. Of note, our config directory in /var/lib/rancid/observium is also empty now....
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Mike Stupalov mike@observium.org wrote:
> Hi, > > On 25.08.16 2:37, Robbie Wright wrote: > > As the title says, upgraded via svn to 8068 and the config tab is > gone. Integration to smokeping still works, as well as the user agents and > everything else, but no rancid. Rancid setup is still in the config file > too. Anyone else seen it disappear after any update? > > Which user level used? > > Try to view showtech tab for device (add at end of url: > "/tab=showtech/"), ie: > https://observium/device/device=101/tab=showtech/ > > > On a side note, svn is reporting at revision 8069 while the gui is > reporting 8068. > > Robbie Wright > Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com/ > 541-902-5101 > > > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing listobservium@observium.orghttp://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium > > > > > -- > Mike Stupalovhttp://observium.org > > > ______________________________ _________________ > observium mailing list > observium@observium.org > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium >
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On 30/08/2016 22:56, Robbie Wright wrote:
Derek, yes, we updated the router.db file to use semi-colons and are waiting for the cron job to run and see if it works without throwing an error.
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
What makes Obersvium decide to hide or display the config tab on a device? Just the presence of a valid backup in rancid?
Yes.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Horth <dan@horth.com.au mailto:dan@horth.com.au> wrote:
If you read the code that is generating you rancid config file there is a big clue in there for you, i.e. in observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php: if (isset($config['rancid_version']) && strpos($config['rancid_version'], '3') !== FALSE) { // v3 delimiter $delimiter = ';'; } else { // v2 delimiter $delimiter = ':'; }
On 31 Aug 2016, at 5:55 AM, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: # RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly! bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com/> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org <mailto:adama@memetic.org>> wrote: What /is/ in the router.db? Adam. Sent from BlueMail <http://www.bluemail.me/r> On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log? property 'svn:ignore' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
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You need to set :
$config['rancid_version'] = "3";
In config.php.
adam. On 30/08/2016 16:06:22, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote: On 30/08/2016 22:56, Robbie Wright wrote:
Derek, yes, we updated the router.db file to use semi-colons and are waiting for the cron job to run and see if it works without throwing an error.
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
What makes Obersvium decide to hide or display the config tab on a device? Just the presence of a valid backup in rancid?
Yes.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com] 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Daniel Horth <dan@horth.com.au [mailto:dan@horth.com.au]> wrote:
If you read the code that is generating you rancid config file there is a big clue in there for you, i.e. in observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php:
if (isset($config['rancid_version']) && strpos($config['rancid_version'], '3') !== FALSE) { // v3 delimiter $delimiter = ';'; } else { // v2 delimiter $delimiter = ':';
}
On 31 Aug 2016, at 5:55 AM, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com [mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com]> wrote:
# RANCID router.db autogenerated by /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php # Do not edit this file directly!
bbc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up bc-gw1.tld.net:mikrotik:up etc, etc
We've got maybe 30 devices in that have been pulling down configs perfectly until recently. Google isn't too much help but did find a few things with people having a hard time with the colon in router.db and rancid expecting it to be a semi-colon instead. Not sure if if a rancid update changed that, but if it did, I'd expect a lot more people to be having issue besides us. Thanks Adam.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com/] 541-902-5101 [tel:541-902-5101]
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Adam Armstrong <adama@memetic.org [mailto:adama@memetic.org]> wrote:
What /is/ in the router.db? Adam. Sent from BlueMail [http://www.bluemail.me/r]
On 30 Aug 2016, at 14:39, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com [mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com]> wrote: Just wanted to throw this out there again. It looks like the /opt/observium/scripts/generate-rancid.php script is creating a router.db that rancid doesn't like. Which we're running 3.3. Any seen issues after the recent upgrade, throwing these errors in the log?
property 'svn:ignore [svn:ignore]' set on '.' property 'svn:ignore [svn:ignore]' set on 'configs' Updating '.': At revision 521. WARNING: Have you forgotten to update the FS in router.db?
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Try this in your config:
$config['rancid_version'] = '3';
On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set.
Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Horth dan@horth.com.au wrote:
Try this in your config:
$config['rancid_version'] = '3';
On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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Single or double will work in your instance.
Single mean use the value exactly as specified
Double quotes tell php to look inside the quoted string to see if there are any variables that need expanding.
Single is more efficient but in a script of this size will have no discernible difference.
On 31 Aug. 2016, at 7:23 am, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set.
Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Horth dan@horth.com.au wrote: Try this in your config:
$config['rancid_version'] = '3';
On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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Umm.. it -is- in the documentation.
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It's also in the web-based configurator if you don't know how the configuration file works :P
On 30/08/2016 23:23, Robbie Wright wrote:
Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set.
Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful.
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Try this in your config: $config['rancid_version'] = '3'; On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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That does look helpful, thanks Tom. I was/am looking here and didn't see it: http://www.observium.org/docs/rancid/
What page are you on?
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:
Umm.. it -is- in the documentation.
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It's also in the web-based configurator if you don't know how the configuration file works :P
On 30/08/2016 23:23, Robbie Wright wrote:
Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set.
Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Horth dan@horth.com.au wrote:
Try this in your config:
$config['rancid_version'] = '3';
On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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Hah, I didn't even see we had that page these days. It should likely go on there too, indeed!
I was on the main "configuration options" page.
Tom
On 30/08/2016 23:57, Robbie Wright wrote:
That does look helpful, thanks Tom. I was/am looking here and didn't see it: http://www.observium.org/docs/rancid/
What page are you on?
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> wrote:
Umm.. it -is- in the documentation. save image It's also in the web-based configurator if you don't know how the configuration file works :P On 30/08/2016 23:23, Robbie Wright wrote:
Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set. Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Horth <dan@horth.com.au <mailto:dan@horth.com.au>> wrote: Try this in your config: $config['rancid_version'] = '3'; On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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It's in the web-based config stuff :
http://omega.memetic.org/~adama/monosnap/Observium_Dev____-_Settings_-_Googl...
adam. On 30/08/2016 17:01:52, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote: Hah, I didn't even see we had that page these days. It should likely go on there too, indeed!
I was on the main "configuration options" page.
Tom
On 30/08/2016 23:57, Robbie Wright wrote:
That does look helpful, thanks Tom. I was/am looking here and didn't see it: http://www.observium.org/docs/rancid/ [http://www.observium.org/docs/rancid/]
What page are you on?
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx [mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx]> wrote:
Umm.. it -is- in the documentation.
[save image]
It's also in the web-based configurator if you don't know how the configuration file works :P
On 30/08/2016 23:23, Robbie Wright wrote:
Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set.
Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband [https://siuslawbroadband.com] 541-902-5101 [tel:541-902-5101]
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Horth <dan@horth.com.au [mailto:dan@horth.com.au]> wrote:
Try this in your config:
$config['rancid_version'] = '3';
On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com [mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com]> wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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Yeah, that's what I said. :P
On 31/08/2016 01:20, Adam Armstrong wrote:
It's in the web-based config stuff :
http://omega.memetic.org/~adama/monosnap/Observium_Dev____-_Settings_-_Googl...
adam.
On 30/08/2016 17:01:52, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:
Hah, I didn't even see we had that page these days. It should likely go on there too, indeed!
I was on the main "configuration options" page.
Tom
On 30/08/2016 23:57, Robbie Wright wrote:
That does look helpful, thanks Tom. I was/am looking here and didn't see it: http://www.observium.org/docs/rancid/
What page are you on?
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx mailto:tom.laermans@powersource.cx> wrote:
Umm.. it -is- in the documentation. save image It's also in the web-based configurator if you don't know how the configuration file works :P On 30/08/2016 23:23, Robbie Wright wrote:
Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set. Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful. Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband <https://siuslawbroadband.com> 541-902-5101 <tel:541-902-5101> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Horth <dan@horth.com.au <mailto:dan@horth.com.au>> wrote: Try this in your config: $config['rancid_version'] = '3'; On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright <robbie@siuslawbroadband.com <mailto:robbie@siuslawbroadband.com>> wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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Yup, thanks guys. I just needed the direction to change the variable to set it for v3 of rancid. It was just missing from the documentation on the rancid integration I was looking at, otherwise I would have got it. Thanks for all the help. It is working great again.
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On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote:
Yeah, that's what I said. :P
On 31/08/2016 01:20, Adam Armstrong wrote:
It's in the web-based config stuff :
http://omega.memetic.org/~adama/monosnap/Observium_Dev__ __-_Settings_-_Google_Chrome_2016-08-30_18.19.46.png
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On 30/08/2016 17:01:52, Tom Laermans tom.laermans@powersource.cx tom.laermans@powersource.cx wrote: Hah, I didn't even see we had that page these days. It should likely go on there too, indeed!
I was on the main "configuration options" page.
Tom
On 30/08/2016 23:57, Robbie Wright wrote:
That does look helpful, thanks Tom. I was/am looking here and didn't see it: http://www.observium.org/docs/rancid/
What page are you on?
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Tom Laermans <tom.laermans@powersource.cx
wrote:
Umm.. it -is- in the documentation.
[image: save image]
It's also in the web-based configurator if you don't know how the configuration file works :P
On 30/08/2016 23:23, Robbie Wright wrote:
Single quotes or double quotes on the version number? I've got double on it now, re-ran the file generator and got the semi colons in there so I'm hoping we're all set.
Thanks everyone. I might recommend putting this in the documentation for the rancid config, it would have been helpful.
Robbie Wright Siuslaw Broadband https://siuslawbroadband.com 541-902-5101
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Horth dan@horth.com.au wrote:
Try this in your config:
$config['rancid_version'] = '3';
On 31 Aug. 2016, at 6:56 am, Robbie Wright robbie@siuslawbroadband.com wrote:
Daniel, that code does look like it would catch what version of rancid is being used, but either it can't do it by itself or the rancid version is a variable in the observium config file that needs to be set.
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