Hi All,
Just to remind everyone we have a Jira installation for reporting bugs. It's helpful when reporting things as it means I don't forget about them (which I have a habit of doing). It's a lot easier when I get some time to just look at Jira and clear out a couple than trying to remember what things people have reported via email.
We also have a Fisheye installation at http://fisheye.observium.org which gives a nice interface to our code.
If you're reporting an error with a graph on a particular module, it's often helpful to send examples of the rrd files and an entry from the database (if you know how), as otherwise it can be a nightmare for us to test.
adam.
Adam,
please tell why you choose these products bug tracker and the source code viewer? What do you think such a migration to git and github? Or why not use products like Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) or Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/).
Just wondering why not to use open source products, and began to use commercial products.
On 25.05.2012 01:40, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Hi All,
Just to remind everyone we have a Jira installation for reporting bugs. It's helpful when reporting things as it means I don't forget about them (which I have a habit of doing). It's a lot easier when I get some time to just look at Jira and clear out a couple than trying to remember what things people have reported via email.
We also have a Fisheye installation at http://fisheye.observium.org which gives a nice interface to our code.
If you're reporting an error with a graph on a particular module, it's often helpful to send examples of the rrd files and an entry from the database (if you know how), as otherwise it can be a nightmare for us to test.
adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
-- Mike
Mike,
Long story short: because they're all gigantic pieces of useless $#@&-.
Tom (EOD)
On 25/05/2012 9:10, Mike wrote:
Adam,
please tell why you choose these products bug tracker and the source code viewer? What do you think such a migration to git and github? Or why not use products like Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) or Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/).
Just wondering why not to use open source products, and began to use commercial products.
On 25.05.2012 01:40, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Hi All,
Just to remind everyone we have a Jira installation for reporting bugs. It's helpful when reporting things as it means I don't forget about them (which I have a habit of doing). It's a lot easier when I get some time to just look at Jira and clear out a couple than trying to remember what things people have reported via email.
We also have a Fisheye installation at http://fisheye.observium.org which gives a nice interface to our code.
If you're reporting an error with a graph on a particular module, it's often helpful to send examples of the rrd files and an entry from the database (if you know how), as otherwise it can be a nightmare for us to test.
adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
-- Mike _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
All of the Open Source products are terrible.
We get a free license for Jira and Fisheye from Atlassian, so what does it matter?
We don't use git because our respository is now 6 years old, and we can't change our delivery mechanism without significant disruption to our userbase, for little real-world benefit.
adam.
On 25/05/2012 08:10, Mike wrote:
Adam,
please tell why you choose these products bug tracker and the source code viewer? What do you think such a migration to git and github? Or why not use products like Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) or Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/).
Just wondering why not to use open source products, and began to use commercial products.
On 25.05.2012 01:40, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Hi All,
Just to remind everyone we have a Jira installation for reporting bugs. It's helpful when reporting things as it means I don't forget about them (which I have a habit of doing). It's a lot easier when I get some time to just look at Jira and clear out a couple than trying to remember what things people have reported via email.
We also have a Fisheye installation at http://fisheye.observium.org which gives a nice interface to our code.
If you're reporting an error with a graph on a particular module, it's often helpful to send examples of the rrd files and an entry from the database (if you know how), as otherwise it can be a nightmare for us to test.
adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
-- Mike _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
In snmp world everything is opposite, all commercial products suck balls big time. And in open source it seems only observium make it, to become something friendly.
Only problem I see now, observium site is down too much often, like now.
On 25/05/12 11:35, Adam Armstrong wrote:
All of the Open Source products are terrible.
Nikolay,
The site works fine for me at the moment?
But I'll certainly agree its uptime stats are not fantastic :-(
Tom
On 25/05/2012 9:50, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
In snmp world everything is opposite, all commercial products suck balls big time. And in open source it seems only observium make it, to become something friendly.
Only problem I see now, observium site is down too much often, like now.
On 25/05/12 11:35, Adam Armstrong wrote:
All of the Open Source products are terrible.
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Sure, but it already costs ~£500/year, to make it better would cost more :P
adam.
On 2012-05-25 08:53, Tom Laermans wrote:
Nikolay,
The site works fine for me at the moment?
But I'll certainly agree its uptime stats are not fantastic :-(
Tom
On 25/05/2012 9:50, Nikolay Shopik wrote:
In snmp world everything is opposite, all commercial products suck balls big time. And in open source it seems only observium make it, to become something friendly.
Only problem I see now, observium site is down too much often, like now.
On 25/05/12 11:35, Adam Armstrong wrote:
All of the Open Source products are terrible.
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
Just was curious to know why such a choice. Now I know :)
Although the assertion that "all of the Open Source products are terrible" - funny. Observium is also open source. :)
Mike.
On 25.05.2012 11:35, Adam Armstrong wrote:
All of the Open Source products are terrible.
We get a free license for Jira and Fisheye from Atlassian, so what does it matter?
We don't use git because our respository is now 6 years old, and we can't change our delivery mechanism without significant disruption to our userbase, for little real-world benefit.
adam.
On 25/05/2012 08:10, Mike wrote:
Adam,
please tell why you choose these products bug tracker and the source code viewer? What do you think such a migration to git and github? Or why not use products like Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) or Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/).
Just wondering why not to use open source products, and began to use commercial products.
On 25.05.2012 01:40, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Hi All,
Just to remind everyone we have a Jira installation for reporting bugs. It's helpful when reporting things as it means I don't forget about them (which I have a habit of doing). It's a lot easier when I get some time to just look at Jira and clear out a couple than trying to remember what things people have reported via email.
We also have a Fisheye installation at http://fisheye.observium.org which gives a nice interface to our code.
If you're reporting an error with a graph on a particular module, it's often helpful to send examples of the rrd files and an entry from the database (if you know how), as otherwise it can be a nightmare for us to test.
adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
-- Mike _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
I think you missed the context, which was bug tracking software.
adam.
On 2012-05-25 08:51, Mike wrote:
Just was curious to know why such a choice. Now I know :)
Although the assertion that "all of the Open Source products are terrible" - funny. Observium is also open source. :)
Mike.
On 25.05.2012 11:35, Adam Armstrong wrote:
All of the Open Source products are terrible.
We get a free license for Jira and Fisheye from Atlassian, so what does it matter?
We don't use git because our respository is now 6 years old, and we can't change our delivery mechanism without significant disruption to our userbase, for little real-world benefit.
adam.
On 25/05/2012 08:10, Mike wrote:
Adam,
please tell why you choose these products bug tracker and the source code viewer? What do you think such a migration to git and github? Or why not use products like Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) or Trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/).
Just wondering why not to use open source products, and began to use commercial products.
On 25.05.2012 01:40, Adam Armstrong wrote:
Hi All,
Just to remind everyone we have a Jira installation for reporting bugs. It's helpful when reporting things as it means I don't forget about them (which I have a habit of doing). It's a lot easier when I get some time to just look at Jira and clear out a couple than trying to remember what things people have reported via email.
We also have a Fisheye installation at http://fisheye.observium.org which gives a nice interface to our code.
If you're reporting an error with a graph on a particular module, it's often helpful to send examples of the rrd files and an entry from the database (if you know how), as otherwise it can be a nightmare for us to test.
adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
-- Mike _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
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