
Hello,
the SVN commit mail from the observium-svn list yesterday (2015-06-04 16:46:51 +0200) crashed our mail server, most likely because the subject was way too long. I don't know, what script/hook you are using, but the standard in RFC 2822, section 2.1.1. states that
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed, so I can resubscribe?
Thanks,
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hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
“Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF”
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don’t want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)

Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)

meanwhile gmail keeps on chuggin' too :)
Simon
On 5 Jun 2015, at 9:53 am, Joseph L. Brunner joe@affirmedsystems.com wrote:
Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)
-- bye, emilio _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

Point taken :)
Saying it crashed our mail server wasn't 100% correct, it just described it as easy as possible. Nothing really crashed, we didn't lose any data and it was easily found and fixed (which we meanwhile did). Next time I will wait until we fixed it, before writing such mails :-/
-- Michael
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Smith Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Juni 2015 11:00 An: Observium Network Observation System Betreff: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
meanwhile gmail keeps on chuggin' too :)
Simon
On 5 Jun 2015, at 9:53 am, Joseph L. Brunner joe@affirmedsystems.com wrote:
Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)
-- bye, emilio _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

No desire to name and shame the mail server platform? :)
adam.
Sent from Mailbird [http://www.getmailbird.com/?utm_source=Mailbird&utm_medium=email&utm...] On 05/06/2015 10:51:38, michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote: Point taken :)
Saying it crashed our mail server wasn't 100% correct, it just described it as easy as possible. Nothing really crashed, we didn't lose any data and it was easily found and fixed (which we meanwhile did). Next time I will wait until we fixed it, before writing such mails :-/
-- Michael
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Smith Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Juni 2015 11:00 An: Observium Network Observation System Betreff: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
meanwhile gmail keeps on chuggin' too :)
Simon
On 5 Jun 2015, at 9:53 am, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)
-- bye, emilio _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

Can you change subject to commit message? It would be more useful.
On 05/06/15 14:21, Adam Armstrong wrote:
No desire to name and shame the mail server platform? :)
adam.
Sent from Mailbird [http://www.getmailbird.com/?utm_source=Mailbird&utm_medium=email&utm...] On 05/06/2015 10:51:38, michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote: Point taken :)
Saying it crashed our mail server wasn't 100% correct, it just described it as easy as possible. Nothing really crashed, we didn't lose any data and it was easily found and fixed (which we meanwhile did). Next time I will wait until we fixed it, before writing such mails :-/
-- Michael
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Smith Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Juni 2015 11:00 An: Observium Network Observation System Betreff: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
meanwhile gmail keeps on chuggin' too :)
Simon
On 5 Jun 2015, at 9:53 am, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)
-- bye, emilio _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

I don't know, can I? Commit messages can have new lines in them...
Sent from Mailbird [http://www.getmailbird.com/?utm_source=Mailbird&utm_medium=email&utm...] On 05/06/2015 12:24:38, Nikolay Shopik shopik@inblock.ru wrote: Can you change subject to commit message? It would be more useful.
On 05/06/15 14:21, Adam Armstrong wrote:
No desire to name and shame the mail server platform? :)
adam.
Sent from Mailbird [http://www.getmailbird.com/?utm_source=Mailbird&utm_medium=email&utm...] On 05/06/2015 10:51:38, michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote: Point taken :)
Saying it crashed our mail server wasn't 100% correct, it just described it as easy as possible. Nothing really crashed, we didn't lose any data and it was easily found and fixed (which we meanwhile did). Next time I will wait until we fixed it, before writing such mails :-/
-- Michael
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Smith Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Juni 2015 11:00 An: Observium Network Observation System Betreff: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
meanwhile gmail keeps on chuggin' too :)
Simon
On 5 Jun 2015, at 9:53 am, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)
-- bye, emilio _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

Include just first line, you still have full commit message in body anyway.
On 05/06/15 14:25, Adam Armstrong wrote:
I don't know, can I? Commit messages can have new lines in them...
Sent from Mailbird [http://www.getmailbird.com/?utm_source=Mailbird&utm_medium=email&utm...] On 05/06/2015 12:24:38, Nikolay Shopik shopik@inblock.ru wrote: Can you change subject to commit message? It would be more useful.
On 05/06/15 14:21, Adam Armstrong wrote:
No desire to name and shame the mail server platform? :)
adam.
Sent from Mailbird [http://www.getmailbird.com/?utm_source=Mailbird&utm_medium=email&utm...] On 05/06/2015 10:51:38, michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote: Point taken :)
Saying it crashed our mail server wasn't 100% correct, it just described it as easy as possible. Nothing really crashed, we didn't lose any data and it was easily found and fixed (which we meanwhile did). Next time I will wait until we fixed it, before writing such mails :-/
-- Michael
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Smith Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Juni 2015 11:00 An: Observium Network Observation System Betreff: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
meanwhile gmail keeps on chuggin' too :)
Simon
On 5 Jun 2015, at 9:53 am, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)
-- bye, emilio _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

Just realized that I never answered that e-mail: it was IGetMail choking on too long subject lines :-/
Michael
Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Adam Armstrong Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Juni 2015 13:22 An: observium@observium.org Betreff: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
No desire to name and shame the mail server platform? :)
adam.
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On 05/06/2015 10:51:38, michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.commailto:michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com <michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.commailto:michael.weinrich@picturemaxx.com> wrote: Point taken :)
Saying it crashed our mail server wasn't 100% correct, it just described it as easy as possible. Nothing really crashed, we didn't lose any data and it was easily found and fixed (which we meanwhile did). Next time I will wait until we fixed it, before writing such mails :-/
-- Michael
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Smith Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Juni 2015 11:00 An: Observium Network Observation System Betreff: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
meanwhile gmail keeps on chuggin' too :)
Simon
On 5 Jun 2015, at 9:53 am, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
Meanwhile,
Exchange 2010 keeps on chuggin'
-----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of emilio brambilla Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 04:03 AM To: observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] SVN commit mail crashed our mail server
hello,
On 06/05/2015 09:54 AM, Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.commailto:Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com wrote:
"Each line of characters MUST be no more than 998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding
the CRLF"
The subject of said mail was way over 2000 characters. For now I unsubscribed from that list because I don't want to kill
e-mail for everybody in the office once in a while, but can you have a look into this issue and tell me when it is fixed,
so I can resubscribe?
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
:)
-- bye, emilio _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
observium mailing list observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium
_______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium@observium.orgmailto:observium@observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:03 AM, emilio brambilla emilio@ngi.it wrote:
hem... ok what RFC says, and OK svn commit mail should respect rfcs, but when I have a mda (or mta?) which crashes on longer than rfc-conform lines, I will fix it as soon as possible (I'm open to a very sipmle DOS) and not write it on public mailinglists untill it's fixed;
Crashes on overly-long input always make me turn a little pale, because they're often a sign of a buffer-overrun code execution exploit waiting to happen.
participants (7)
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Adam Armstrong
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David Brodbeck
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emilio brambilla
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Joseph L. Brunner
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Michael.Weinrich@picturemaxx.com
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Nikolay Shopik
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Simon Smith