Hi Darren,

(Attached)

I haven't got any prod links that are pushing their sla thresholds right now, so here's a pre-prod one that is most likely just the control plane having a slow moment running the sla test (the link is otherwise idle and a local patch within the dc).

If you squint hard enough, you can see the colour difference as it transitions towards orange/red. We use gradual colours in the scales, not hard steps.

Cheers,

Michael

On December 10, 2020 8:28:11 AM GMT+11:00, "Storer, Darren" darren.storer@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Michael,

Showing IP SLA sounds interesting - would it be possible to share an example of what it looks like via PHP Weathermap?

Many thanks

Darren

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 20:49, Michael via observium observium@observium.org wrote:

...

I wouldn't say we've got many complex weathermaps. At my former

employer,

...

we had developed a few of them into more complex ones (with a network focus, not a device/server focus).

I've extracted an example of what I'm doing with templates and

included it

...

below.

I change the text on the hovergraph to present the device and

interface

...

info, plus I flip the graph rrd to be the one relevant to that

interface

...

(so yes, the in/out flip based on which end of the link you are

looking

...

at). We also track IP SLA metrics on the weathermap with a narrow

link that

...

runs next to the data link. We apply different scales for local

(within a

...

datacentre), interstate and cross-country so that the relevant

changes in

...

latency can be correspondingly coloured.

It might give people some ideas. I'll see if I can dig up some

sanitised

...

versions out of my former workplace...

Cheers,

Michael

---

NODE ROUTER ICON 130 60 round LABELOUTLINECOLOR none USESCALE STATUS TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{node:this:label}/status.rrd:status:- INFOURL https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D

LINK DEFAULT ARROWSTYLE compact BWLABEL bits BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 70 30 COMMENTFONT 10 COMMENTSTYLE center COMMENTFONTCOLOR contrast INOVERLIBGRAPH

/graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:b_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600

...

   OUTOVERLIBGRAPH

/graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:a_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600

...

   ININFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:b_graph_id}/
   OUTINFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:a_graph_id}/
   TARGET

../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:INOCTETS:OUTOCTETS INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int}

LINK SLA WIDTH 2 BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 60 40 OVERLIBGRAPH

/graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:sla_id}&type=sla_echo&legend=no&from=-21600

...

   INFOURL /graphs/type=sla_echo/id={link:this:sla_id}/
   TARGET

gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:rtt:-

...

gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:b_end}/{link:this:b_rrd}:-:rtt INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int} USESCALE LOCAL absolute

################################ #### NODES #### ################################ NODE hy_myrouter TEMPLATE ROUTER LABEL myrouter POSITION hy_otherrouter 240 0

################################ #### DIRECT LINKS #### ################################ NK data_hy_otherrouter_myrouter TEMPLATE NATIVE SET a_graph_id 3877 SET a_end myrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd port-122.rrd SET b_graph_id 3778 SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd port-98.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:0 hy_myrouter:-60:0

################################ #### SLA LINKS #### ################################ LINK sla_hy_otherrouter_hy_myrouter TEMPLATE SLA SET sla_id 82 SET a_end otherrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-2.rrd SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-1.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:-5 hy_myrouter:-60:-5

On 10 Dec 2020, at 4:49 am, Adam Armstrong via observium < observium@observium.org> wrote:

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using template/include features?

How complex after the weathermaps you’re making?

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The link with 1.91(ms) is ever so slightly a different shade of green compared to the 1ms ones. It's most obvious at the midway point of the link arrow.

As for the flipping, it's done by the INOVERLIBGRAPH and OUTOVERLIBGRAPH lines. It will show you a different graph depending on which end of the link you are hovering on. In my example, one graph is id 3877 and the other is 3778 (but I did just notice that I made a typo on "a_end" where it should say otherrouter... Meh.).

In my deployment, I make it so that the graph displayed is relative to that closest port to the hover, plus I also flip the diplayed description.

Michael

On 10 Dec 2020, at 3:13 pm, Shekhar Basnet sbasnet@deerwalk.com wrote:

Hi, Michael, thanks. I squinted real hard but could not differentiate the color difference. :) By the way, in the config, which line is doing the flipping? I could not achieve it . Many thanks, Shekhar

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:45 AM Michael via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> wrote: Hi Darren,

(Attached)

I haven't got any prod links that are pushing their sla thresholds right now, so here's a pre-prod one that is most likely just the control plane having a slow moment running the sla test (the link is otherwise idle and a local patch within the dc).

If you squint hard enough, you can see the colour difference as it transitions towards orange/red. We use gradual colours in the scales, not hard steps.

Cheers,

Michael

On December 10, 2020 8:28:11 AM GMT+11:00, "Storer, Darren" <darren.storer@gmail.com mailto:darren.storer@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi Michael,

Showing IP SLA sounds interesting - would it be possible to share an example of what it looks like via PHP Weathermap?

Many thanks

Darren

On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 20:49, Michael via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:

...

I wouldn't say we've got many complex weathermaps. At my former

employer,

...

we had developed a few of them into more complex ones (with a network focus, not a device/server focus).

I've extracted an example of what I'm doing with templates and

included it

...

below.

I change the text on the hovergraph to present the device and

interface

...

info, plus I flip the graph rrd to be the one relevant to that

interface

...

(so yes, the in/out flip based on which end of the link you are

looking

...

at). We also track IP SLA metrics on the weathermap with a narrow

link that

...

runs next to the data link. We apply different scales for local

(within a

...

datacentre), interstate and cross-country so that the relevant

changes in

...

latency can be correspondingly coloured.

It might give people some ideas. I'll see if I can dig up some

sanitised

...

versions out of my former workplace...

Cheers,

Michael

---

NODE ROUTER ICON 130 60 round LABELOUTLINECOLOR none USESCALE STATUS TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{node:this:label}/status.rrd:status:- INFOURL https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D

LINK DEFAULT ARROWSTYLE compact BWLABEL bits BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 70 30 COMMENTFONT 10 COMMENTSTYLE center COMMENTFONTCOLOR contrast INOVERLIBGRAPH

/graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:b_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600

...

   OUTOVERLIBGRAPH

/graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:a_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600

...

   ININFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:b_graph_id}/
   OUTINFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:a_graph_id}/
   TARGET

../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:INOCTETS:OUTOCTETS INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int}

LINK SLA WIDTH 2 BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 60 40 OVERLIBGRAPH

/graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:sla_id}&type=sla_echo&legend=no&from=-21600

...

   INFOURL /graphs/type=sla_echo/id={link:this:sla_id}/
   TARGET

gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:rtt:-

...

gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:b_end}/{link:this:b_rrd}:-:rtt INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int} USESCALE LOCAL absolute

################################ #### NODES #### ################################ NODE hy_myrouter TEMPLATE ROUTER LABEL myrouter POSITION hy_otherrouter 240 0

################################ #### DIRECT LINKS #### ################################ NK data_hy_otherrouter_myrouter TEMPLATE NATIVE SET a_graph_id 3877 SET a_end myrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd port-122.rrd SET b_graph_id 3778 SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd port-98.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:0 hy_myrouter:-60:0

################################ #### SLA LINKS #### ################################ LINK sla_hy_otherrouter_hy_myrouter TEMPLATE SLA SET sla_id 82 SET a_end otherrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-2.rrd SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-1.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:-5 hy_myrouter:-60:-5

On 10 Dec 2020, at 4:49 am, Adam Armstrong via observium < observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> wrote:

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using template/include features?

How complex after the weathermaps you’re making?

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Is this all contained within a single conf file?

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On 9 Dec 2020, 20:48, at 20:48, Michael obslist@smarsz.com wrote:

I wouldn't say we've got many complex weathermaps. At my former employer, we had developed a few of them into more complex ones (with a network focus, not a device/server focus).

I've extracted an example of what I'm doing with templates and included it below.

I change the text on the hovergraph to present the device and interface info, plus I flip the graph rrd to be the one relevant to that interface (so yes, the in/out flip based on which end of the link you are looking at). We also track IP SLA metrics on the weathermap with a narrow link that runs next to the data link. We apply different scales for local (within a datacentre), interstate and cross-country so that the relevant changes in latency can be correspondingly coloured.

It might give people some ideas. I'll see if I can dig up some sanitised versions out of my former workplace...

Cheers,

Michael

---

NODE ROUTER ICON 130 60 round LABELOUTLINECOLOR none USESCALE STATUS TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{node:this:label}/status.rrd:status:- INFOURL https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D

LINK DEFAULT ARROWSTYLE compact BWLABEL bits BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 70 30 COMMENTFONT 10 COMMENTSTYLE center COMMENTFONTCOLOR contrast INOVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:b_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600 OUTOVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:a_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600 ININFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:b_graph_id}/ OUTINFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:a_graph_id}/ TARGET ../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:INOCTETS:OUTOCTETS INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int}

LINK SLA WIDTH 2 BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 60 40 OVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:sla_id}&type=sla_echo&legend=no&from=-21600 INFOURL /graphs/type=sla_echo/id={link:this:sla_id}/ TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:rtt:- gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:b_end}/{link:this:b_rrd}:-:rtt INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int} USESCALE LOCAL absolute

################################ #### NODES #### ################################ NODE hy_myrouter TEMPLATE ROUTER LABEL myrouter POSITION hy_otherrouter 240 0

################################ #### DIRECT LINKS #### ################################ NK data_hy_otherrouter_myrouter TEMPLATE NATIVE SET a_graph_id 3877 SET a_end myrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd port-122.rrd SET b_graph_id 3778 SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd port-98.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:0 hy_myrouter:-60:0

################################ #### SLA LINKS #### ################################ LINK sla_hy_otherrouter_hy_myrouter TEMPLATE SLA SET sla_id 82 SET a_end otherrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-2.rrd SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-1.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:-5 hy_myrouter:-60:-5

...

On 10 Dec 2020, at 4:49 am, Adam Armstrong via observium

observium@observium.org wrote:

...

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using

template/include features?

...

How complex after the weathermaps you’re making?

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I’m integrating the weathermap code into Observium, since so many people seem to have issues making it work, and it doesn’t look like the WM code is ever really going to change again. The original author re-licensed it as MIT, so we can include it without issues now.

I’ve switched it to pulling configuration from the database, but in the process broken the “include” feature. I assume almost no one uses it, but just checking.

Adam.

From: Michael obslist@smarsz.com Sent: 10 December 2020 07:38 To: Observium observium@observium.org Cc: Adam Armstrong adama@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] PHP Weathermap

Yes.

I just create a new conf file for each map that I make. I'm not aware of another way to do it. I think the global directives can only be declared once (such as output filename, map title etc).

I usually end up copying the same base globals for most of the maps and just re-using them. Provides a bit of consistency across them for the next sucker that needs to try and figure it out when I've moved on...

I sometimes go through this thread looking for inspiration of new and intersting ways to try and display things - https://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=24433. I've recreated the magnifying glass idea before, which comes in really handy when you have bonds/port-channels and you want to see both the individual interfaces along with the cumulative load.

Was there something that you were specifically after Adam??? It's not often that you post a question out to the list! :D

Cheers,

Michael

On 10 Dec 2020, at 6:15 pm, Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org > wrote:

Is this all contained within a single conf file?

Adam.

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On 9 Dec 2020, at 20:48, Michael <obslist@smarsz.com mailto:obslist@smarsz.com > wrote:

I wouldn't say we've got many complex weathermaps. At my former employer, we had developed a few of them into more complex ones (with a network focus, not a device/server focus).

I've extracted an example of what I'm doing with templates and included it below.

I change the text on the hovergraph to present the device and interface info, plus I flip the graph rrd to be the one relevant to that interface (so yes, the in/out flip based on which end of the link you are looking at). We also track IP SLA metrics on the weathermap with a narrow link that runs next to the data link. We apply different scales for local (within a datacentre), interstate and cross-country so that the relevant changes in latency can be correspondingly coloured.

It might give people some ideas. I'll see if I can dig up some sanitised versions out of my former workplace...

Cheers,

Michael

-----------

NODE ROUTER ICON 130 60 round LABELOUTLINECOLOR none USESCALE STATUS TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{node:this:label}/status.rrd:status:- INFOURL https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D

LINK DEFAULT ARROWSTYLE compact BWLABEL bits BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 70 30 COMMENTFONT 10 COMMENTSTYLE center COMMENTFONTCOLOR contrast INOVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:b_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600 OUTOVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:a_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600 ININFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:b_graph_id}/ OUTINFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:a_graph_id}/ TARGET ../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:INOCTETS:OUTOCTETS INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int}

LINK SLA WIDTH 2 BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 60 40 OVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:sla_id}&type=sla_echo&legend=no&from=-21600 INFOURL /graphs/type=sla_echo/id={link:this:sla_id}/ TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:rtt:- gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:b_end}/{link:this:b_rrd}:-:rtt INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int} USESCALE LOCAL absolute

################################ #### NODES #### ################################ NODE hy_myrouter TEMPLATE ROUTER LABEL myrouter POSITION hy_otherrouter 240 0

################################ #### DIRECT LINKS #### ################################ NK data_hy_otherrouter_myrouter TEMPLATE NATIVE SET a_graph_id 3877 SET a_end myrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd port-122.rrd SET b_graph_id 3778 SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd port-98.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:0 hy_myrouter:-60:0

################################ #### SLA LINKS #### ################################ LINK sla_hy_otherrouter_hy_myrouter TEMPLATE SLA SET sla_id 82 SET a_end otherrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-2.rrd SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-1.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:-5 hy_myrouter:-60:-5

On 10 Dec 2020, at 4:49 am, Adam Armstrong via observium < observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org > wrote:

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using template/include features?

How complex after the weathermaps you’re making?

Thanks,

Adam.

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I was surprised that it seems very little has changed since I was using it in 2007 :)

I guess no one really uses the include stuff, and it’s safe to just go without it.

The plan is to replace the overlib stuff with Observium mouseovers, and add device mouseovers too.

Adam.

From: Michael obslist@smarsz.com Sent: 10 December 2020 09:57 To: Adam Armstrong adama@observium.org Cc: Observium observium@observium.org Subject: Re: [Observium] PHP Weathermap

I did see the MIT license change just today. I guess this might spawn a number of forks from the 0.98a code as people begin to support/enhance it themselves.

I wasn't aware of the INCLUDE function. From the config reference guide, it doesn't quite sound like it was fully implemented and I'm a bit unsure what to make of "INCULDEd files must contain complete NODE or LINK definitions" in regards to what constitues a complete definition...? Especially since it also states that the INCLUDE must be performed in the global section, prior to any NODES or LINKS. I dunno.

It was added to the code in 0.96b, which a bit of digging places that in ~2009. So it's been there a while now. Maybe I should RTFM a bit more! lol

I edit all of my maps by hand, too, in vi no less! So I'm probably not a good benchmark for such things. :p

On 10 Dec 2020, at 8:33 pm, Adam Armstrong <adama@observium.org mailto:adama@observium.org > wrote:

I’m integrating the weathermap code into Observium, since so many people seem to have issues making it work, and it doesn’t look like the WM code is ever really going to change again. The original author re-licensed it as MIT, so we can include it without issues now.

I’ve switched it to pulling configuration from the database, but in the process broken the “include” feature. I assume almost no one uses it, but just checking.

Adam.

From: Michael <obslist@smarsz.com mailto:obslist@smarsz.com > Sent: 10 December 2020 07:38 To: Observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org > Cc: Adam Armstrong <adama@observium.org mailto:adama@observium.org > Subject: Re: [Observium] PHP Weathermap

Yes.

I just create a new conf file for each map that I make. I'm not aware of another way to do it. I think the global directives can only be declared once (such as output filename, map title etc).

I usually end up copying the same base globals for most of the maps and just re-using them. Provides a bit of consistency across them for the next sucker that needs to try and figure it out when I've moved on...

I sometimes go through this thread looking for inspiration of new and intersting ways to try and display things - https://forums.cacti.net/viewtopic.php?t=24433. I've recreated the magnifying glass idea before, which comes in really handy when you have bonds/port-channels and you want to see both the individual interfaces along with the cumulative load.

Was there something that you were specifically after Adam??? It's not often that you post a question out to the list! :D

Cheers,

Michael

On 10 Dec 2020, at 6:15 pm, Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org > wrote:

Is this all contained within a single conf file?

Adam.

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On 9 Dec 2020, at 20:48, Michael <obslist@smarsz.com mailto:obslist@smarsz.com > wrote:

I wouldn't say we've got many complex weathermaps. At my former employer, we had developed a few of them into more complex ones (with a network focus, not a device/server focus).

I've extracted an example of what I'm doing with templates and included it below.

I change the text on the hovergraph to present the device and interface info, plus I flip the graph rrd to be the one relevant to that interface (so yes, the in/out flip based on which end of the link you are looking at). We also track IP SLA metrics on the weathermap with a narrow link that runs next to the data link. We apply different scales for local (within a datacentre), interstate and cross-country so that the relevant changes in latency can be correspondingly coloured.

It might give people some ideas. I'll see if I can dig up some sanitised versions out of my former workplace...

Cheers,

Michael

-----------

NODE ROUTER ICON 130 60 round LABELOUTLINECOLOR none USESCALE STATUS TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{node:this:label}/status.rrd:status:- INFOURL https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D https://observium/device/device=%7Bnode:this:label%7D

LINK DEFAULT ARROWSTYLE compact BWLABEL bits BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 70 30 COMMENTFONT 10 COMMENTSTYLE center COMMENTFONTCOLOR contrast INOVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:b_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600 OUTOVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:a_graph_id}&type=port_bits&legend=no&from=-21600 ININFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:b_graph_id}/ OUTINFOURL /graphs/type=port_bits/id={link:this:a_graph_id}/ TARGET ../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:INOCTETS:OUTOCTETS INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int}

LINK SLA WIDTH 2 BANDWIDTH 100G BWLABELPOS 60 40 OVERLIBGRAPH /graph.php?height=100&width=512&id={link:this:sla_id}&type=sla_echo&legend=no&from=-21600 INFOURL /graphs/type=sla_echo/id={link:this:sla_id}/ TARGET gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:a_end}/{link:this:a_rrd}:rtt:- gauge:../../rrd/{link:this:b_end}/{link:this:b_rrd}:-:rtt INOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:b_end} {link:this:b_int} OUTOVERLIBCAPTION {link:this:a_end} {link:this:a_int} USESCALE LOCAL absolute

################################ #### NODES #### ################################ NODE hy_myrouter TEMPLATE ROUTER LABEL myrouter POSITION hy_otherrouter 240 0

################################ #### DIRECT LINKS #### ################################ NK data_hy_otherrouter_myrouter TEMPLATE NATIVE SET a_graph_id 3877 SET a_end myrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd port-122.rrd SET b_graph_id 3778 SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd port-98.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:0 hy_myrouter:-60:0

################################ #### SLA LINKS #### ################################ LINK sla_hy_otherrouter_hy_myrouter TEMPLATE SLA SET sla_id 82 SET a_end otherrouter SET a_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET a_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-2.rrd SET b_end myrouter SET b_int Hu0/0/2/0 SET b_rrd sla-cisco-rttmon-mib-1.rrd NODES hy_otherrouter:60:-5 hy_myrouter:-60:-5

On 10 Dec 2020, at 4:49 am, Adam Armstrong via observium < observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org > wrote:

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using template/include features?

How complex after the weathermaps you’re making?

Thanks,

Adam.

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We use weathermap with about 7 or 8 maps currently. I'd love to see it integrated since there are security issues with it as it is right now. We ended up blocking weathermaps from external access since it doesn't require any kind of authentication and anyone who knows/guesses the URL for one can see it.

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We used it in the past but couldn't get it to work on the current version. Highly appreciating if Observium would had PHP Weathermap or similar functionality implemented

cody

On 2020-12-09 18:49, Adam Armstrong via observium wrote:

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using template/include features?

How complex after the weathermaps you're making?

Thanks,

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Dear lord, making weathermaps for hundreds of sites would be painful.

The port maps we generate are made with graphviz, but it doesn’t make very useful diagrams when you have more than a handful of devices.

The graphviz stuff was actually one of the first features I created a very long time ago, but they’ve always been almost useless. That’s why we don’t expose the full map and only use the “port map” thing.

Adam.

From: observium observium-bounces@observium.org On Behalf Of Torstein Eide via observium Sent: 12 December 2020 19:21 To: Observium observium@observium.org Cc: Torstein Eide torsteine@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Observium] PHP Weathermap

I am planning to use Weathermap for my 4-500 sits.

Mainly to show topologi and link status. But I have other more pressing issues, that I need to focus on.

What is the status on current topology engine used? That uses the LLDP.

ons. 9. des. 2020, 18:49 skrev Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org >:

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using template/include features?

How complex after the weathermaps you’re making?

Thanks,

Adam.

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I make light use of templates to set some defaults, nothing as cool as Michael's. May have to up my hover text game now :)

I just build maps as needed, mainly ones to cover general topology and infrastructure, sometimes I add clients to them for quick overviews. It’s a hard problem to do auto layout for that kind of thing in a meaningful fashion. Something a little more interactive and flexible than the available weathermap editor would be nice though (html5 interactive instead of new cgi call interactive).

-Darrell

On Dec 12, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Torstein Eide via observium observium@observium.org wrote:

Yepp, but at some point it needs to be done. Need to help my on site personell.

What other options do I have?

lør. 12. des. 2020, 20:50 skrev Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org>: Dear lord, making weathermaps for hundreds of sites would be painful.

The port maps we generate are made with graphviz, but it doesn’t make very useful diagrams when you have more than a handful of devices.

The graphviz stuff was actually one of the first features I created a very long time ago, but they’ve always been almost useless. That’s why we don’t expose the full map and only use the “port map” thing.

Adam.

From: observium <observium-bounces@observium.org mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org> On Behalf Of Torstein Eide via observium Sent: 12 December 2020 19:21 To: Observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org> Cc: Torstein Eide <torsteine@gmail.com mailto:torsteine@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Observium] PHP Weathermap

I am planning to use Weathermap for my 4-500 sits.

Mainly to show topologi and link status. But I have other more pressing issues, that I need to focus on.

What is the status on current topology engine used? That uses the LLDP.

ons. 9. des. 2020, 18:49 skrev Adam Armstrong via observium <observium@observium.org mailto:observium@observium.org>:

Hi Guys,

For those of you using PHP Weathermap, how many of you are using template/include features?

How complex after the weathermaps you’re making?

Thanks,

Adam.

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