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Observium Enterprise/Pro licensing
by Adam Armstrong 20 Apr '13

20 Apr '13

Hi All, At some point in the future it's likely that I'm going to split Observium into free and enterprise/pro variants. Observium has historically been developed as a fairly ad hoc project, with work being done as time permits between work projects. We've often had gaps of 6 months where there has been little work done due to other commitments. As the user-base expands this is going to become less and less viable a way of maintaining the project, and we need to be able to devote more time to keeping on top of bug reports and feature development. To be able to devote more time to the project we need to establish a revenue stream to be able to support it. We'd like comments from you guys about how we should go about splitting, what should be in each version, and what we should charge. We're considering: A hosts/ports-based licensing scheme, where you get a certain number free, and any more than that requires a license. A feature-based licensing scheme, where higher-value features such as load balancers, netapp, mac accounting, vpn tracking, etc require a license. Licensing for customer-access, where allowing customers access to the web interface requires a license. What pricing models do you think would work? Options for the ent/pro version include using the honour system, maintaining a separate password-protected SVN repository or distributing an ioncube-protected version. I would prefer to go the honour system route, but I'm not sure how well that would work. Thanks, adam.

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fisheye
by Crozier, Doug 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

Is anyone else having problems getting to http://fisheye.observium.org/changelog/Observium?

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Re: [Observium] polling interval
by Adam Armstrong 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

This is not possible with observium. Adam. J Z <jzthegeek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >observium mailing list >observium(a)observium.org >http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

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polling interval
by J Z 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

Long-time user and lurker. Many thanks to Adam and those who volunteer their time on this awesome project. I was wondering if there was a way to modify the polling interval (aside from modifying the crontab entry). I know that there was a lot of work that had to be done to decrease the polling interval from 5 to 1 minutes in Cacti, so I imagine it's not as simple as simply changing the crontab entry for Observium to monitor a switch's traffic utilization every 60 seconds. Has anyone successfully done this? Is there something simple I'm missing to get this to work? Many thanks!

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Re: [Observium] APC UPS and remaining Runtime
by Adam Armstrong 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

Hi, We currently have no sensor type to capture this. It is on the list, but as with everything else, no time and no resources. Adam. Chris Blake <chrisrblake93(a)gmail.com> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >observium mailing list >observium(a)observium.org >http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

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APC UPS and remaining Runtime
by Chris Blake 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

Hello, Not sure if I am doing this right (using the mailing list) so please don't kill me if I am. I currently have a APC UPS SMT2200RM2U, and I just recently added it to my Observium panel vi SNMP v2c. I see it logs everything from the current load to battery temp, but I am kind of surprised it does not log Battery Run Time Remaining. I checked in the latest APC powernet.mib file, and there is a function to call this. So, I updated the /opt/observium/mib/apc/powernet.mib to the latest version, but observium still does not log or show the remaining run time, which leads me to believe it is not coded into the script. Just wondering if this is a plan for the future, or am I doing everything wrong? Thanks, Chris B

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Polling Rate on a 3750 Stack
by Michael Sweikata 18 Apr '13

18 Apr '13

Is anyone else having huge response times in their polling of a Cisco 3750 stack? I've increased the number of pollers I have to something close to 17, but my 3750s seem to take forever to respond (anywhere between 200 - 999.99+ seconds). It may be an issue on my 3750s, but my polling intervals on my devices is several hours. I have 2950s and 6509s that don't seem to have any issue responding in a short amount of time (<20 seconds).

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Re: [Observium] missing directories in observium
by Tom Laermans 17 Apr '13

17 Apr '13

Ladies and gentlemen, Adam is practicing for his commercial support idea. How would you rate this response on a scale from 1 to A++ WOULD SVN UP AGAIN? ;-) Sent from my mobile, please excuse brevity and spelling errors. ----- Reply message ----- From: "Adam Armstrong" <adama(a)memetic.org> To: "Observium Network Observation System" <observium(a)observium.org> Subject: [Observium] missing directories in observium Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 09:14 On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:54:09 +0000, LUKE REAGOR <LUKE.REAGOR(a)sville.us> wrote: > I just installed Observium following the instructions on > http://www.observium.org/wiki/Ubuntu_SVN_Installation and it all went on > with no problems. When I go to the url http://localhost I get the logon for > Observium. When I log on, I get the page showing the world map and > everything looks good. However, when I click on any link I get a 404 saying > it doesn't exist. Ex. when I click on Add User, I get a 404 saying > /adduser/ was not found. I look in the filesystem and don't see those > directories in /opt/observium or /opt/observium/html. Did it not get > all the directories and files from the svc? I did that part three times to > make sure. I even look in the svc > (http://www.observium.org/svn/observer/trunk) from a web browser and can't > find those directories. Hi, You're missing mod_rewrite or AllowOverride All on the directory in the Apache configuration. Thanks, adam. _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium(a)observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

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missing directories in observium
by LUKE REAGOR 17 Apr '13

17 Apr '13

I just installed Observium following the instructions on http://www.observium.org/wiki/Ubuntu_SVN_Installation and it all went on with no problems. When I go to the url http://localhost I get the logon for Observium. When I log on, I get the page showing the world map and everything looks good. However, when I click on any link I get a 404 saying it doesn't exist. Ex. when I click on Add User, I get a 404 saying /adduser/ was not found. I look in the filesystem and don't see those directories in /opt/observium or /opt/observium/html. Did it not get all the directories and files from the svc? I did that part three times to make sure. I even look in the svc (http://www.observium.org/svn/observer/trunk) from a web browser and can't find those directories. Luke Reagor Network Administrator Stephenville ISD "I am not a teacher only a fellow traveller of whom you asked the way. I pointed ahead ahead of myself as well as of you." -George Bernard Shaw

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Re: [Observium] Observium Enterprise/Pro licensing
by Adam Armstrong 16 Apr '13

16 Apr '13

For the port-based model we would likely exclude virtual ports. It would likely only exist to catch users with 8 vss and 10k ports :-) In terms of support and development, we would likely push all new feature development to the commercial version. Support and feature requests from licensees would be prioritised too. This is already the case for our existing commercial sponsor. Roughly 50% of development work is directly requested features from them. We certainly want to keep the free version usable, and we don't want to separate the code bases, as that would slow progress a lot. I think the balance between keeping everything usable and maintaining a carrot to encourage people to license will be difficult. Pricing is also difficult to decide on. If the majority of users won't pay, it will be higher than if we have more licensees. If every user paid $10, we would probably be fine. I suspect not even 5% will be willing to pay, though. Adam. "Hibler, Florian" <florian.hibler(a)kaiaglobal.com> wrote: >Hi Adam, >thanks for telling the list about your thoughts on commercializing >Observium and giving us the opportunity to talk about the licensing >scheme before you actually decide which way to go. > >I need to agree with Nikolay, that "port-based" shouldn't be the way to >go, as many devices just add tons of virtual ports. For me "host-based" >sounds pretty fair. > >Also I would prefer to use the "honor system" route as well. Keepeing >the source code open makes it still easy for people to contribute to >certain features or customize Observium for their own needs. Once a >product is commercialized you will have piracy, thats what I am pretty >sure of. Although I am pretty sure that this community will honor your >work and what you have done. Observium is a great product and it helps >me with my daily work. > >Can you already outline some pricing you have in mind and/or the >differences between free/pro/enterprise editions? Once there is money >behind that whole thing, what would actually change? How would you deal >with the support, feature requests, etc.? > >Just my 2 cent and hope it was a bit helpful! > >Best regards, >Florian > >-- >Florian Hibler >Chief Technical Officer >eMail: florian.hibler(a)kaiaglobal.com > >Kaia Global Networks Limited >Internet: http://www.kaiaglobal.com >Company No. 08257877 >Registered Office: High Wycombe, UK > >Notice: This transmittal and/or attachments may be privileged or >confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby >notified that you have received this transmittal in error; any review, >dissemination, or copying is strictly prohibited. If you received this >transmittal in error, please notify us immediately by reply and >immediately delete this message and all its attachments. Thank you. > >On 4/15/13 24:58, Adam Armstrong wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> At some point in the future it's likely that I'm going to split Observium >> into free and enterprise/pro variants. >> >> Observium has historically been developed as a fairly ad hoc project, with >> work being done as time permits between work projects. We've often had gaps >> of 6 months where there has been little work done due to other commitments. >> >> As the user-base expands this is going to become less and less viable a >> way of maintaining the project, and we need to be able to devote more time >> to keeping on top of bug reports and feature development. To be able to >> devote more time to the project we need to establish a revenue stream to be >> able to support it. >> >> We'd like comments from you guys about how we should go about splitting, >> what should be in each version, and what we should charge. >> >> We're considering: >> >> A hosts/ports-based licensing scheme, where you get a certain number free, >> and any more than that requires a license. >> A feature-based licensing scheme, where higher-value features such as load >> balancers, netapp, mac accounting, vpn tracking, etc require a license. >> Licensing for customer-access, where allowing customers access to the web >> interface requires a license. >> >> What pricing models do you think would work? >> >> Options for the ent/pro version include using the honour system, >> maintaining a separate password-protected SVN repository or distributing an >> ioncube-protected version. >> >> I would prefer to go the honour system route, but I'm not sure how well >> that would work. >> >> Thanks, >> adam. >> _______________________________________________ >> observium mailing list >> observium(a)observium.org >> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium >> >_______________________________________________ >observium mailing list >observium(a)observium.org >http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

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