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Re: [Observium] observium Digest, Vol 54, Issue 37
by Nate Mellendorf 11 Jan '15

11 Jan '15

@ Colin Stubbs Agreed. We didn't run a full PoC either with Observium. We deployed it and watched to see if anyone found it useful or not. It wasn't long before it was running neck and neck with our production platform, which was quite unexpected for us. We (eventually) have/had no problem paying the $200 USD out of our team budget, as production software far exceeded the extremely low cost of Observium. As you noted earlier, If the demo site included all the features of the paid subscription; I think that would be enough to show free users what they're missing. (If it's configured as a full PoC as well, it should make selling the service to their team / management that much easier.) Side Note: Adam and the team work hard on this project, so the current payment plan is quite understandable and is to be expected. Even if you add on the support element for Observium, it's still far cheaper than most paid subscriptions.(Solarwinds, What's Up Gold) (It's something like $17 USD a month for full device monitoring and statistics on all configured devices. That's crazy awesome!) Nate Mellendorf | NETWORK ANALYST | Netgain 720 West Saint Germain Street | St. Cloud | MN | 56301 Phone: 320.251.4700 x183 | 877.797.4700 x183 www.NetgainHosting.com The information contained in this email message is for the designated recipient only and may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message or any information contained within is strictly prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: observium [mailto:observium-bounces@observium.org] On Behalf Of observium-request(a)observium.org Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 1:54 AM To: observium(a)observium.org Subject: observium Digest, Vol 54, Issue 37 Send observium mailing list submissions to observium(a)observium.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to observium-request(a)observium.org You can reach the person managing the list at observium-owner(a)observium.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of observium digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: cheap much? re: trial (Jacob Gardiner) 2. Re: cheap much? re: trial (Colin Stubbs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 10:38:34 +1100 From: Jacob Gardiner <jacob(a)jacobgardiner.com> To: Adam Armstrong <adama(a)memetic.org>, Observium Network Observation System <observium(a)observium.org> Subject: Re: [Observium] cheap much? re: trial Message-ID: <etPan.54b1b7fb.2ae8944a.376@JG-MBP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" There?s more out there than just RedHat.? You?re just being a bit ignorant in that regards.? --? Jacob Gardiner @jacobgardiner On 11 January 2015 at 9:27:23 am, Adam Armstrong (adama(a)memetic.org) wrote: Well, we already proved this stupid "mek ur munies from support herpderp" belief common amongst open source zealots is abject nonsense. We make more money from support as a commercial operation than we ever did as pure open source, because businesses value a commercial product more than a free one, and are more likely to buy support for it. In 7 years of being open source we made maybe $1000 in voluntary donations, more than half from one person (and I'm pretty sure he drunk-donated every time). This is demonstrable fact, and is the primary reason were now commercial. RedHat are the exception that proves the rule. The fact that no one can think of anyone else (no, Oracle don't count) who makes money should be enough to demonstrate that open source doesn't pay, but for some reason people are still convinced it does. I don't know. It's like the software equivalent of trickle-down economics. No amount of evidence can sway ideologues. Adam. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 10 January 2015 13:46:02 Tom Laermans <tom.laermans(a)powersource.cx> wrote: Sorry, that's the GPL-centric view that does not cover world reality at all. Also, they already see the whole thing. That's the part (90%+!) they're supporting by sending money. The bonus they get should not be the reason to support the project to begin with. We offer trial licenses at 150 GBP. As a bonus you can test it for an entire year. Lastly, I'm a bit confused why you think something needs to be GPL to be able to modify the source firstly, and the contribute the changes back second... Tom On 10/01/2015 13:15, Jacob Gardiner wrote: Because they don?t give a shit about how you license it. As long as it works and you?ll fix it if it breaks. If you GPL the full version and provide ongoing SLA & upgrades for the software, it wont make much of a difference. Holding back features between versions actually widens the gap between getting trial users converted to fully paid users, Mainly because the guys that try your software out want to see the whole thing, and not just a subset of features when they trial it.? Besides, how do you think organisations that have development budgets contribute to products if they?re not GPL? More often than not, the requirement for ?open source? software within a company is because they want their developers to be able to add and submit features back to the product. ? ? On 10 January 2015 at 3:50:27 pm, Adam Armstrong (adama(a)memetic.org) wrote: I'm not really terribly cool with commercial organisations benefiting from the costlessness of open source software. Why should someone who'll pay Cisco $50k for a router get my work for free? ? _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium(a)observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium(a)observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium _______________________________________________ observium mailing list observium(a)observium.org http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium

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cheap much? re: trial
by Rob VanHooren 11 Jan '15

11 Jan '15

really? it’s what, a hundred quid? for a whole year. your bossfolk will collectively burn that up in under one minute of pedantic jawing at their next useless meeting. and they can’t let you take a year’s flyer to gain added features for software that you already like? do they make staff pay per cup for coffee/tea in the office kitchen too? charge rental fees for using up their whiteboard markers? sixpence per sheet in the company loo? ~boggle~ R. > On Jan 9, 2015, at 07:00, observium-request(a)observium.org wrote: > > I would very much like to test this functionality in the commercial edition of Observium before purchasing a subscription - is this possible please?

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Sbscription
by Chip Pleasants 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

I currently have a subscription and wondering the best way to renew. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Chip

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Draw error
by Darian Jimenez 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

Hello, Any idea why I would be getting "draw errors" on a bunch of my devices?

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RANCID integration and * history *
by Leroux, Steve 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

Hi Observium Team, We have an Observium Subscription - well worth it. Observium: 0.15.1.6158 Rancid WebSVN: 2.3.3 I noticed this week that viewing the network config (from RANCID) not only has the current but history. We auto-update our observium weekly. I'm not sure when this was done but thanks. I'm sure many of us (subscribers) will be very pleased with this additional feature. That is so awesome. Big Thanks for that. That's it. Sample: [cid:image001.jpg@01D02B25.CEC7A880] Steve Leroux Technical Operations Manager -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: This email and any attachments may contain confidential information intended only for the addressee(s). Inappropriate distribution, use or copying of confidential information is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Avertissement: Cet e-mail et les pièces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles destinées uniquement au destinataire (s). Répartition inappropriée, l'utilisation ou la copie d'informations confidentielles est strictement interdite. Si vous avez reçu ce courriel par erreur, s'il vous plaît informer l'expéditeur et le supprimer immédiatement.

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Juniper Class of Service MIB (mib-jnx-cos)
by Dave Lindon 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

Hey All, Wondering if anyone has looked into implementing mib-jnx-cos into Observium? I know that Juniper doesn't create the friendliest MIBs but thought it was worth checking if it's been attempted. Cheers, Dave

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Trial License - Observium Commercial Edition
by Carl Francis 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

Hi, I'm a very happy Observium Community Edition user, keep up the good work! I have a Linux appliance that utilises Observium, Nagios, NagioSQL, Cacti, Splunk, etc. that runs as our Company NOC. I would like to simplify this and perhaps remove Nagios as I only use this for basic ICMP "Are you there" checks currently. I would very much like to test this functionality in the commercial edition of Observium before purchasing a subscription - is this possible please? Kind regards, Carl Francis [cid:image001.gif@01D01B8A.17EED7F0] e: carl.francis(a)flexnet-ts.com<mailto:carl.francis@flexnet-ts.com> // m: +44 (0) 7967 398 853<callto:00447967398853> // w: http://www.flexnet-ts.com<http://www.flexnet-ts.com/> // @FlexNetTS<https://twitter.com/flexnetts> Click here to watch a Cisco Meraki Webinar, and receive a free wireless access point!<http://www.meraki.com/company/webinars?ref=1dxTIjY>

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installing observium
by girum kebede 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

i got the error when instaling the observium and setting the Setup the MySQL and when running this command :- php includes/sql-schema/update.php this is the error i get " Could not open input file: includes/sql-schema/update.php"

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EU Subscriptions and new subscription management system
by Adam Armstrong 09 Jan '15

09 Jan '15

Hi Guys, To get around the additional complexity complying with the EU regulations would require we've switched to a slightly more expensive, but more helpful payment provider which is now acting as a VAT agent on our behalf, usefully sidestepping all of the EU VAT issues. They also have a much friendlier and much easier to use API, so I finally got around to properly automating the subscription system. For the future to renew subscriptions, you'll need to create an account on the subscription management system and order via the button. At the moment it autogenerates usernames and passwords, but in future I'll make those customisable. You can find it at http://www.observium.org/subs/ Thanks, adam.

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geolocation problems after update
by Guilherme de Freitas Figueiredo 05 Jan '15

05 Jan '15

hi all! after upgrading my svn version of observium noticed that the points are gone the map going to a strange location and coordinates "manual" in the geolocation option of configuration of devices. to not upgrade one by one and clear beyond coordinate option did a direct change in sql that functioned normally, it follows: UPDATE `observium`.`devices_locations` SET `location_lat` = NULL , `location_lon` = NULL , `location_geoapi` = 'google' , `location_manual` = '0'; after 5 minutes the points again appear on the map in the right way []s! -- Guilherme de Freitas Figueiredo

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