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Disable CDP neighbour discovery?
by Ulrik Ivers 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Hi, Is it possible to disable neighbour discovery via CDP but still leave it enabled for LLDP? The reason for asking is that we are a 100% LLDP shop, but some equipment run both CDP and LLDP. When looking at the tab "Neighbours" of such a device the neighbours are listed twice, one with protocol LLDP and one with protocol CDP. We would like to only do neighbour discovery via LLDP, if possible. I've looked through the options files and the documentation but haven't been able to find a setting to disable CDP. Regards, /Ulrik Ivers

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Location menu - hierarchical without GeoLocation?
by Ulrik Ivers 30 Nov '15

30 Nov '15

Hi again, Corrected some typos to make the explanation a bit more understandable ... /Ulrik Hi, Trying to figure out whether it's possible to have the Location menu on the front page being hierarchical with GeoLocation DISABLED. Is this possible? Running version 7203. Our snmp location strings in our devices are on the format of: City, Building, Floor We'd like to have the Location menu on the frontpage being displayed hierarchical something like this: Location City A [3] Building A [3] Floor X [2] Floor Y [1] At the moment the menu looks like this with THREE devices of which TWO have the same location string Location City A, Building A, Floor X City A, Building A, Floor Y Any suggestions would be welcome. Regards, /Ulrik Ivers

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Location menu - hierarchical without GeoLocation?
by Ulrik Ivers 29 Nov '15

29 Nov '15

Hi, Trying to figure out whether it's possible to have the Location menu on the front page being hierarchical with GeoLocation DISABLED. Is this possible? Running version 7203. Our snmp location strings in our devices are on the format of: City, Building, Floor We'd like to have the Location menu on the frontpage being displayed hierarchical something like this: Location City A [3] Building A [3] Floor X [2] Floor Y [1] At the moment the menu looks like this with tree devices of which to have the same location string Location City A, Building A, Floor X City A, Building A, Floor Y Any suggestions would be welcome. Regards, /Ulrik Ivers

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Map error?
by linuxthefish 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

Hi, Why does my Observium show a blue sea and not the normal location markers? Thanks!

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App monitoring - What am I missing??
by Scott A. Davis 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Hello - Trying to set up the apache monitor on the same server where Observium is running (I figured that would be easiest). I can't seem to figure out what I am missing. Sorry for being verbose ... Just need to make sure I am covering all my bases. Any suggestions are appreciated. Version Information *Observium CE* 0.15.6.6430 *OS* Linux 2.6.32-573.8.1.el6.x86_64 [amd64] (CentOS 6.7) *Apache* 2.2.15 *PHP* 5.4.44 *Python* Python 2.6.6 *MySQL* 5.5.45 *SNMP* NET-SNMP 5.5 *RRDtool* 1.3.8 * Copied /opt/observium/scripts/observium_agent_xinetd -> /etc/xinetd.d/ [root@zen xinet.d]# ls -la observium_agent_xinetd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 650 Nov 26 18:33 observium_agent_xinetd * Copied /opt/observium/scripts/observium_agent -> /usr/bin [root@zen bin]# ls -la observium_agent -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12K Nov 26 18:31 observium_agent* * Made directories: mkdir /usr/lib/observium_agent /usr/lib/observium_agent/local * Copied /opt/observium/scripts/agent-local/apache -> /usr/lib/observium_agent/local [root@zen local]# ls -la total 64K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K Nov 26 17:46 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Nov 26 17:43 ../ -rwxrw-rw- 1 1000 1000 2.9K Nov 26 18:31 apache* -rwxrw-rw- 1 1000 1000 51K Nov 26 19:12 mysql* * Edited /etc/xinetd.d/observium_agent_xinetd only_from = 127.0.0.01 ::1 (Also added my reap IPv4 address to that line for good posterity) * Made sure I had port 33602 open on the firewall (and even disabled firewall at times) service xinetd restart [root@zen conf]# service xinetd restart Stopping xinetd: [ OK ] Starting xinetd: [ OK ] * _httpd.conf says:_ ExtendedStatus On <Location /server-status> SetHandler server-status Order deny,allow Deny from all Allow from 127.0.0.1 Allow from ::1 Allow from <my real IPv4 address> Allow from <my home address> </Location> I can access that just fine. * Ensured the agent port setting in Device Settings->Agent was correct * Ensured the unix-agent module was enabled in Settings->Modules What am I missing? Help. Thank you!!

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GeoLocation not correct
by Scott A. Davis 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Hi - Not sure if this is an Observium issue or not, but in all the time I've used the community version, I've never had this problem. My screen shot is here: http://imgur.com/D9waqhG I have 3 servers. Two in TX, which show up accurately, and one in Atlanta, which shows up in the middle of the Atlantic ocean. Observium shows its location as "Unknown" my snmpd.conf is as follows (with XXXXX marking non-relevant info) syslocation Atlanta, Georgia rocommunity XXXXXX sysname tsundoku.XXXXXXX.XXX syscontact scott.a.davis(a)gmail.com I have other servers with similar snmpd.conf on that map showing up fine. For syslocation, I have also tried Atlanta, Atlanta, GA, etc ... Nothing changes. Any reason why this would happen? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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Custom OIDs are fantastic
by Tim Vaughan 27 Nov '15

27 Nov '15

Just wanted to say thankyou for adding support for Custom OIDs. Using a combination of this article http://www.maartenmoerman.nl/?p=649 and this one http://awesomeadmin.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/monitoring-cisco-wireless-contro… I was able to add graphs to track how many clients are on each of our individual access points. So far I think it's working, even if it is a pain to calculate which AP MAC address translates to which OID....

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dell UPS and PDU
by BROSSEAU Benoit 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

Hello, We are a new observium customer and we are trilled with what we see. Our instance just detected about everything on our pretty extensive network BUT we have a couple of items showing up as GENERIC DEVICE thoses are Dell 6606 PDU and Dell 10000w UPS. Since the pdu are just rebranded APC and the UPS rebranded EATON is there a way to make thoses work ? thanks

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enquiry about invoice
by Ankit Dubey 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

Hi, Please let me know - will I get an invoice when I will pay to get the subscription as that invoice will be required for reimbursement of invoice amount from my organization. Best regards Ankit Dubey ________________________________ This E-Mail may contain Confidential and/or legally privileged Information and is meant for the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error and are not the intended recipient/s, Kindly notify the sender and then delete this e-mail immediately from your system. You are also hereby notified that any use, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail, its contents or its attachment/s other than by its intended recipient/s is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Internet Communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be delayed, intercepted, corrupted, lost, or contain viruses. Sistema Shyam Teleservices Limited does not accept any liability for any errors, omissions, viruses or computer problems experienced by any recipient as a result of this e-mail.

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Custom Contacts
by lom＠digitelitalia.com 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

How to associate a custom contact in an alert checker? I create the contacts, but I don't know how to associate to an alert checker. I'm using Professional version, upgraded from SVN at 7221 release. Thank you. digitel Ing. Lorenzo Mainardi Via della Fortezza 6 - 50129 Firenze <http://www.digitelitalia.com/> www.digitelitalia.com - 800 901 669 Tel +39 055 4624933 Fax +39 055 4624 947 lom(a)digitelitalia.com <mailto:lom@digitelitalia.com>

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Contacts / Alert Checks
by Spencer Ryan 26 Nov '15

26 Nov '15

I see I can create custom contacts, but I don't see a way to associate an alert check to that contact. Am I just missing this? I saw an old post from adam saying there was no way to do it in the UI but that was a few months ago. I'd really like to define a destination email address for specific alert checks in our use case. Any help? *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan(a)arbor.net *Arbor Networks* +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com

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MySQL application
by Geoff Johnson 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

The instructions for configuring the MySQL application at https://observium.org/w/Application/MySQL are unclear about where the database user must be created. Do the user create steps need to be done on every host running MySQL that you want to monitor, or just once on the Observium server? I assume that it's the former, just looking for clarification. Thanks, Geoff

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Lot of DB errors
by Bastiaan Topper 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

Hi, I receive a lot of DB errors on my Observium server every polling interval. [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10471' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10471') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10472' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10472') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10473' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10473') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10474' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10474') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10476' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10476') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10477' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10477') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10478' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10478') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10480' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10480') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10481' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10481') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10482' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10482') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10484' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10484') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10485' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10485') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10486' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10486') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10488' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10488') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10489' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10489') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10490' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10490') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10491' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10491') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10493' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10493') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10494' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10494') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '10495' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('10495') [2015/11/22 13:11:31 +0100] poller.php(14640): Failed dbQuery (#1062 - Duplicate entry '67419' for key 'PRIMARY'), Query: INSERT INTO `alert_table-state` (`alert_table_id`) VALUES ('67419') Every 5 minutes I have thousands of these errors in my error log (db.log in the observium logs folder). What could cause this? And how can I troubleshoot this? I already tried to delete a few from the mentioned entries from the database, but it recreates them and still returns the errors. Almost all errors are for the alert_table-state table. Thanks and regards, Bastiaan

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Debugging rsyslog
by Tim Vaughan 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

I have a number of devices on separate VLANs to my Observium server. They are configured to send their logs via syslog to Observium. I have firewall rules in place on our router to allow this traffic between VLANs and I can see the traffic being passed in firewall logs. However, the log messages never seem to make it into Observium. How can I go about debugging rsyslog to see whether the logs arrive correctly at the server and are correctly processed by rsyslogd?

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PHP Weathermap
by Serghei Golipad 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

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Dlink DES-1210-28
by Support 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

Hi, we have added a brand new Dlink (DES 1210-28) under monitor with last release of Observium (update just yesterday) the discover is ok but the data of interfaces (packets, bandwith, etc..) is not collect the devices is been delete e added more times any ideas? saluti, Giuseppe Caputo _____________________________________________________________________ NUCKLEO Information Technology Solutions Support & Delivery Team http://www.nuckleo.com _____________________________________________________________________

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upgrade community version to paid version
by Ankit Dubey 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

Hi, I have installed community version and wish to upgrade it to paid version. What is the process? Do I need to provide internet connectivity to already installed server which is having community version and there is some process to upgrade the same to paid version directly? Best regards Ankit Dubey Lead, Packet Core Planning Division Network, CORPORATE CENTER ________________________________ This E-Mail may contain Confidential and/or legally privileged Information and is meant for the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error and are not the intended recipient/s, Kindly notify the sender and then delete this e-mail immediately from your system. You are also hereby notified that any use, any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and/or publication of this e-mail, its contents or its attachment/s other than by its intended recipient/s is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Internet Communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be delayed, intercepted, corrupted, lost, or contain viruses. Sistema Shyam Teleservices Limited does not accept any liability for any errors, omissions, viruses or computer problems experienced by any recipient as a result of this e-mail.

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Arista "sensors" module taking a very long time
by Spencer Ryan 24 Nov '15

24 Nov '15

I'm hoping the answer isn't "make arista fix their SNMP engine" Polling a 7280 (64 ports of 10G) takes about 180 second, with 99% of that time in the sensors module. Running it in debug I see a lot of stalls, and this effectively repeating CMD[/usr/bin/snmpget -v2c -c *** -Pu -OUqnv -m SNMPv2-MIB -M /opt/observium/mibs/rfc:/opt/observium/mibs/net-snmp 'udp':' core-1.aa.it.arbor.net':'161' aristaEntSensorThresholdHighWarning] EXITCODE[1] CMD RUNTIME[0.005s] STDOUT[ ] STDERR[ aristaEntSensorThresholdHighWarning: Unknown Object Identifier (Sub-id not found: (top) -> aristaEntSensorThresholdHighWarning) ] SNMP_STATUS[FALSE] SQL[SELECT * FROM `snmp_errors` WHERE `device_id` = '96' AND `error_code` = '1002' AND `snmp_cmd` = 'snmpget' AND `snmp_options` = '-OUqnv' AND `mib` = 'SNMPv2-MIB' AND `oid` = 'aristaEntSensorThresholdHighWarning';] SQL RUNTIME[0.00026798s] SQL[UPDATE `snmp_errors` set `error_count` ='471101',`updated` ='1448318766' WHERE `error_id` = '802'] SQL RUNTIME[0.00107193s] Array ( [sensor_value] => ) [RRD Disabled - update /opt/observium/rrd/ core-1.aa.it.arbor.net/sensor-power-entity-sensor-100315212.rrd N:0] Any idea if that's something you can fix? *Spencer Ryan* | Senior Systems Administrator | sryan(a)arbor.net *Arbor Networks* +1.734.794.5033 (d) | +1.734.846.2053 (m) www.arbornetworks.com

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Re: [Observium] How to delete ports of devices?
by Tim Toepp 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Chaman, Are they actually down? Meaning not being used? Or are you saying they are being incorrectly reported? So if they are actually down and you are asking how to NOT see the down ports in your listing: when you are on the GUI and you are looking at the Ports of a specific Device, click under Quick Filter you can hide different ports based on their status and one of the option is 'Hide Down'. The downside is that it doesn't retain and I haven't found a system wide setting/preference. If this works for you, what you could do is submit a feature request to make it a global setting not just a Quick Filter. But you really do not want to delete ports that are down as then you'll have to add them later when they become in use. HTH, Tim Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:32:07 +0530 From: Chaman Rathee <chaman.rathee(a)progression.com> To: 'Observium Network Observation System' <observium(a)observium.org> Subject: [Observium] How to delete ports of devices? Message-ID: <000001d121be$462b9820$d282c860$(a)progression.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Team, I have many ports that are showing down at observium monitoring system. So, please suggest how to delete "Down Ports" in observium. ......... With Best Regards, Chaman Rathee Mob. No:- +91-9560055816 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments are from a sender at the Metropolitan School District of Washington Township in Indianapolis, Indiana. They are intended for the named recipients and may contain information that is confidential or privileged under Indiana and Federal Law. Any error in addressing or sending this e-mail is not a waiver of confidentiality and does not consent to copying or distribution of this e-mail or attachments. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender of the error by return e-mail and delete this e-mail and its attachments. If there is a need to speak to the sender, please call [317] 845-9400 and they can provide you with contact information.

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front page editing
by Josh Bierman 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Hello All, I want to keep the default layout of the front page with one change: replace the map with a traffic graph. When I tried this using the [frontpage][order] line (removed map from order and put in a custom graph, included EVERYTHING else) , the "Devices,Ports,Sensors" table at the top diapered. How do i get it back? Even if the answer is as simple as RTFM-pages #-## that would help. Thanks, Joshua Bierman Director of Technology Yeshivat Noam

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Hoosekeeping Biling/Groups
by Robin Douine 20 Nov '15

20 Nov '15

Hello, We have users who have billing and groups permission but when we launch /opt/observium/housekeeping.php -b, the users loose their rights. It seems the problem is linked to this log : 1 entity entries in tables 'entity_permissions' for non-existing devices will be deleted [y/N]: Indeed, billing and groups doesn't be directly linked to devices. Best regards -- Robin DOUINE

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Monitoring Snom phones
by Tim Vaughan 19 Nov '15

19 Nov '15

Hi, I'm trying to add several Snom 710 phones. The documentation says they will accept SNMP requests (http://wiki.snom.com/Category:HowTo:SNMP). However, I can't add it from Observium even if I enter my installation's IP address as trusted in the phone config. Checking the phone logs after trying to add them, I see: 17/11/2015 11:19:53 [NOTICE] TOOLS: SNMP: Received unknown object identifier 06082b06010201010200 17/11/2015 11:19:53 [NOTICE] TOOLS: SNMP: Received unknown object identifier 06082b06010201010300 17/11/2015 11:20:03 [NOTICE] TOOLS: SNMP: Received unknown object identifier 06082b06010201010200 17/11/2015 11:20:03 [NOTICE] TOOLS: SNMP: Received unknown object identifier 06082b06010201010300 Has anyone managed to get their Snom phones talking to Observium? -- Mobile: 07868246225 Skype: tvaughan Twitter: twitter.com/tvaughan

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Re: [Observium] Who's running Observium on distros that aren't Ubuntu/Debian/RHEL/CentOS?
by T-MONT Administrator 19 Nov '15

19 Nov '15

Hi Guys, My installation is running smoothly on Slackware Linux ver. 14.1 (x86_64). No special, dedicated actions performed to launch Observium beside of manual installation of RRDTool and few requires dependencies. Regards, Pawel On 19.11.2015 01:46, Ciro Iriarte wrote: > 2015-07-25 16:42 GMT-04:00 Adam Armstrong <adama(a)memetic.org>: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> Are any of you running Observium on distros which aren't the ones we >> recommend? >> >> Did you have to do anything special? >> >> I think we're probably way more friendly to non-debian distros now >> that >> we've lost a lot of legacy stuff! >> >> Thanks, >> adam. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> observium mailing list >> observium(a)observium.org >> http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium >> >> > Running it on SLES11: > > https://iriarte.it/?p=158&lang=es > > Post can be improved after migration though :D > > > > > _______________________________________________ > observium mailing list > observium(a)observium.org > http://postman.memetic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/observium >

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Setting Location
by Josh Hopper 19 Nov '15

19 Nov '15

Is there a way via command line to set the Location of a device? For example, in the GUI you click on a given device and hover over the Gear in the far right. Then click Properties. Under the Device Settings tab there is a Custom Location. This is the location I would like to set. I ran an SNMP Enabler tool and enabled, set and added 100 devices today to Observium. Rather than set this individually, I was hoping I could do it in bulk via SSH. -- Sincerely, Joshua Hopper, A+ CE Sr. Network Administrator [cid:image001.jpg@01D11BAA.500B4080] 420 3rd Ave NW Hickory NC 28601 Office: 828-449-1839x2160 | Cell: 828-855-7565

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Who's running Observium on distros that aren't Ubuntu/Debian/RHEL/CentOS?
by Adam Armstrong 19 Nov '15

19 Nov '15

Hi Guys, Are any of you running Observium on distros which aren't the ones we recommend? Did you have to do anything special? I think we're probably way more friendly to non-debian distros now that we've lost a lot of legacy stuff! Thanks, adam.

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